03-11-2020, 04:00 PM
(03-11-2020, 07:54 AM)Ghost Wrote:I definitely agree with the cusp dates. Especially the Early 80s baby one, because they are really in the X/Millennial cusp, since most sources start “Y” in 1980 at the earliest and X at 1983 at the latest, most starting it in 1982. Mid 80s babies are cuspy Hero with Nomad traits, and Late 70s babies are cuspy Nomad with some Hero traits. I also agree with the Hero/Artist cusp for those born in the VERY Early 21st century (2001-2004, or Early 2000s babies), in which I would comfortably fall in. Mid-Late 90s babies (including 2000) are more safely Millennial. As for the Jones cusp, that one is pretty accurate. The Early 60s babies are really in-between the Boom and X, whereas Late 50s babies are more Younger Boom, while Mid 60s babies are more deeply rooted in X than they realize.(03-11-2020, 12:14 AM)Cocoa Puff Wrote:(03-10-2020, 10:12 PM)Ghost Wrote:(03-10-2020, 07:28 PM)Cocoa Puff Wrote: I might be wrong here, but I think this is just an estimated range for transitions and cores of generations, which I think might be interesting. At the end of the say, it all depends on the person, unless you are in the core, which would only be by birth year and not experiences.
The generational percentage from GI/Silent to Millennial/Homeland (don't know much about the traits of the GIs and prior), going by S&H Definitions (except Millennial end date & Homeland start date):
Core GIs and earlier - b. 1919-earlier
1919 - before = 100% GI
GI/Silent transition (a.k.a. Hero/Artist transition) - Generally b. 1922-1927; b. 1920-1929 at the farthest
1920 - 91% GI (Hero): 9% Silent (Artist) - Definitely GI with a hint of Silent; the beginning of the transition
1921 - 82% GI (Hero): 18% Silent (Artist) - Predominantly GI with minor Silent traits
1922 - 73% GI (Hero): 27% Silent (Artist) - When the transition truly starts
1923 - 64% GI (Hero): 36% Silent (Artist)
1924 - 55% GI (Hero): 45% Silent (Artist) - The demarcation line for end of GI's
1925 - 45% GI (Hero): 55% Silent (Artist) - The demarcation line for start of Silents
1926 - 36% GI (Hero): 64% Silent (Artist)
1927 - 27% GI (Hero): 73% Silent (Artist) - When the transition truly ends
1928 - 18% GI (Hero): 82% Silent (Artist) - Predominantly Silent with minor GI traits
1929 - 9% GI (Hero): 91% Silent (Artist) - Definitely Silent with a hint of GI; the end of the transition
Core Silents (a.k.a. 100% Artist)- Definitely b. 1930-1937; b. 1928-1939 at the farthest
1930 - 1937 - 100% Silent (Artist)
Silent/Boomer transition (a.k.a. Artist/Prophet transition; Swing Generation) - Generally b. 1940-1945; b. 1938-1947 at the farthest
1938 - 95% Silent (Artist): 5% Boomer (Prophet) - Definitely Silent with a hint of Boomer; the beginning of the transition
1939 - 90% Silent (Artist): 10% Boomer (Prophet) - Predominantly Silent with minor Boomer traits
1940 - 80% Silent (Artist): 20% Boomer (Prophet) - When the transition truly starts
1941 - 65% Silent (Artist): 35% Boomer (Prophet)
1942 - 55% Silent (Artist): 45% Boomer (Prophet) - The demarcation line for end of Silents
1943 - 45% Silent (Artist): 55% Boomer (Prophet) - The demarcation line for start of Boomers
1944 - 35% Silent (Artist): 65% Boomer (Prophet)
1945 - 20% Silent (Artist): 80% Boomer (Prophet) - When the transition truly ends
1946 - 10% Silent (Artist): 90% Boomer (Prophet) - Predominantly Boomer with minor Silent traits
1947 - 5% Silent (Artist): 95% Boomer (Prophet) - Definitely Boomer with a hint of Silent; the end of the transition
Core Boomer transition (a.k.a. 100% Prophet) - Definitely b. 1948-1954; b. 1946-1957 at the farthest
1948 - 1954 - 100% Boomer (Prophet)
Boomer/X transition (a.k.a. Prophet/Nomad transition; Generation Jones) - Generally b. 1958-1964; b. 1955-1966 at the farthest
1955 - 95% Boomer (Prophet): 5% X'er (Nomad) - Definitely Boomer with a hint of X; the beginning of the transition
1956 - 90% Boomer (Prophet): 10% X'er (Nomad) - Predominantly Boomer with minor X traits
1957 - 85% Boomer (Prophet): 15% X'er (Nomad) - Mostly Boomer with some X traits
1958 - 80% Boomer (Prophet): 20% X'er (Nomad) - When the transition truly starts
1959 - 70% Boomer (Prophet): 30% X'er (Nomad)
1960 - 60% Boomer (Prophet): 40% X'er (Nomad) - The demarcation line for end of Boomers
1961 - 40% Boomer (Prophet): 60% X'er (Nomad) - The demarcation line for start of X
1962 - 30% Boomer (Prophet): 70% X'er (Nomad)
1963 - 25% Boomer (Prophet): 75% X'er (Nomad)
1964 - 20% Boomer (Prophet): 80% X'er (Nomad) - When the transition truly ends
1965 - 10% Boomer (Prophet): 90% X'er (Nomad) - Predominantly X with minor Boomer traits
1966 - 5% Boomer (Prophet): 95% X'er (Nomad) - Definitely X with a hint of Boomer; the end of the transition
Core X (a.k.a. 100% Nomad) - Definitely b. 1967-1974; b. 1965-1976 at the farthest
1967 - 1974 - 100% X'er (Nomad)
X/Millennial transition (a.k.a. Nomad/Hero transition; Generation Y, Xennial) - Generally b. 1977-1986; b. 1975-1988 at the farthest
1975 - 96% X'er (Nomad): 4% Millennial (Hero) - Definitely X with a hint of Millennial; the beginning of the transition
1976 - 92% X'er (Nomad): 8% Millennial (Hero) - Predominantly X with minor Millennial traits
1977 - 88% X'er (Nomad): 12% Millennial (Hero) - When the transition truly starts
1978 - 80% X'er (Nomad): 20% Millennial (Hero)
1979 - 72% X'er (Nomad): 28% Millennial (Hero)
1980 - 64% X'er (Nomad): 36% Millennial (Hero)
1981 - 56% X'er (Nomad): 44% Millennial (Hero) - The demarcation line for end of X
1982 - 48% X'er (Nomad): 52% Millennial (Hero) - The demarcation line for start of Millennial
1983 - 40% X'er (Nomad): 60% Millennial (Hero)
1984 - 32% X'er (Nomad): 68% Millennial (Hero)
1985 - 24% X'er (Nomad): 76% Millennial (Hero)
1986 - 16% X'er (Nomad): 84% Millennial (Hero) - When the transition truly ends
1987 - 8% X'er (Nomad): 92% Millennial (Hero) - Predominantly Millennial with minor X traits
1988 - 4% X'er (Nomad): 96% Millennial (Hero) -Definitely Millennial with a hint of X; the end of the transition
Core Millennial (a.k.a. 100% Hero) - Definitely b. 1989-1994; b. 1987-1996 at the farthest
1989 - 1994 - 100% Millennial (Hero)
Millennial/Homeland transition (a.k.a. Hero/Artist transition; Generation Z, Zillennial) - Generally b. 1997-2005; b. 1995-2007 at the farthest
1995 - 96% Millennial (Hero): 4% Homeland (Artist) - Definitely Millennial with a hint of Homeland; the beginning of the transition
1996 - 92% Millennial (Hero): 8% Homeland (Artist) - Predominantly Millennial with minor Homeland traits
1997 - 88% Millennial (Hero): 12% Homeland (Artist) - When the transition truly starts
1998 - 84% Millennial (Hero): 16% Homeland (Artist)
1999 - 72% Millennial (Hero): 24% Homeland (Artist)
2000 - 68% Millennial (Hero): 32% Homeland (Artist)
2001 - 60% Millennial (Hero): 40% Homeland (Artist)
2002 - 52% Millennial (Hero): 48% Homeland (Artist) - The demarcation line for end of Millennial
2003 - 44% Millennial (Hero): 56% Homeland (Artist) - The demarcation line for start of Homeland
2004 - 36% Millennial (Hero): 64% Homeland (Artist)
2005 - 28% Millennial (Hero): 72% Homeland (Artist) - When the transition truly ends
2006 - 12% Millennial (Hero): 88% Homeland (Artist) - Predominantly Millennial with minor Millennial traits
2007 - 4% Millennial (Hero): 96% Homeland (Artist) - Definitely Millennial with a hint of Millennial; the end of the transition
Core Homeland and later - b. 2008-onward
2008-onward - 100% Homeland - beyond
I'm going to take a stab here, but what are your thoughts on this one?
The Prophet/Nomad transition
1954: 100% Prophet
1955: 92% Prophet, 8% Nomad (the transition begins - they started elementary school after the birth control pill was introduced, spent most of their elementary school years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, and graduated high school after the legalization of abortion)
1956: 84% Prophet, 16% Nomad
1957: 76% Prophet, 24% Nomad (probably the first somewhat cusp year, considering they graduated high school after the Vietnam War ended)
1958: 68% Prophet, 32% Nomad
1959: 60% Prophet, 40% Nomad
1960: 52% Prophet, 48% Nomad
1961: 44% Prophet, 56% Nomad (the first year leaning towards Nomad, as 1961 is a common starting point for Gen X)
1962: 36% Prophet, 64% Nomad
1963: 28% Prophet, 72% Nomad
1964: 20% Prophet, 80% Nomad (probably the last somewhat cusp year, considering they were born before the decline in birth rates in 1965)
1965: 12% Prophet, 88% Nomad
1966: 4% Prophet, 96% Nomad (the transition ends - they were the last to vote in the Reagan vs Mondale election)
1967: 100% Nomad
The Nomad/Hero Transition
1975: 100% Nomad
1976: 92% Nomad, 8% Hero (the transition begins - they started elementary school after the Reagan v. Carter election, started high school after the Berlin Wall fell, and graduated high school after Kurt Cobain committed suicide)
1977: 84% Nomad, 16% Hero
1978: 76% Nomad, 24% Hero (the first somewhat cusp year, considering that they spent most of their elementary school years after the Challenger explosion, started high school after Nirvana released Nevermind, and graduated high school after Windows 95 was released)
1979: 68% Nomad, 32% Hero
1980: 60% Nomad, 40% Hero
1981: 52% Nomad, 48% Hero
1982: 44% Nomad, 56% Hero (the first year leaning towards Hero - they graduated high school in a year that begins with a 2)
1983: 36% Nomad, 64% Hero
1984: 28% Nomad, 72% Hero
1985: 20% Nomad, 80% Hero (the last somewhat cusp year, considering they entered high school before Y2K and were the last to be born before stereotypical Millennial celebrities, such as Amanda Bynes and Lindsay Lohan, were born)
1986: 12% Nomad, 88% Hero
1987: 4% Nomad, 96% Hero (the transition ends - they were the last to enter elementary school before the Bush v. Clinton election and were the last to be at middle school at the time the Columbine shooting took place)
1988: 100% Hero
The Hero/Artist transition
1996: 100% Hero
1997: 92% Hero, 8% Artist (the transition begins - they weren't at school yet when 9/11 took place, were still in elementary school when the iPhone was released, and graduated high school after Gamergate)
1998: 84% Hero, 16% Artist
1999: 76% Hero, 24% Artist (probably the first somewhat cusp year, considering they started high school after electropop fizzled out and graduated high school after Trump's victory)
2000: 68% Hero, 32% Artist
2001: 60% Hero, 40% Artist
2002: 52% Hero, 48% Artist
2003: 44% Hero, 56% Artist (the first year leaning towards Homelander, as they were the first to be born after the establishment of Homeland Security. Not to mention that Greta Thunberg was born in this year)
2004: 36% Hero, 64% Artist
2005: 28% Hero, 72% Artist
2006: 20% Hero, 80% Artist (probably the last somewhat cusp year, considering there are some sources that stretch the Millennial definition to 2006 and that they were no longer elementary school when the Parkland shooting took place)
2007: 12% Hero, 88% Artist
2008: 4% Hero, 96% Artist (the transition ends - they were no longer at elementary school when Trump was impeached and when the coronavirus scare began in the US)
2009: 100% Artist
This also seems to coincide with the "one saeculum equals one Uranus cycle or 84 years" rule mentioned by some users on this website.
I actually think this is more clean than mine. Especially since you gave some facts about some birth years. And it probably does make sense for 2008 to be the last birth year with any Hero traits because they were the last born before the 2008 Crisis. 2009 would be the first 100% Artists, right before entering the 2010s.
Just guessing, you would probably have Core Prophets end in 1954 (it would probably start in 1946 or 1947).
1955-1966 are the Prophet/Nomad transition
1967-1975 are Core Nomads
1976-1987 are the Nomad/Hero transition
1988-1996 are Core Heroes
1997-2008 are the Hero/Artist transition
2009-? are Core Artists
Prophets in the Millennial Saeculum - b. 1960 and before
Nomads in the Millennial Saeculum - b. 1961-1981
Heroes in the Millennial Saeculum- b. 1982-2002
Artists in the Millennial Saeculum- b. 2003-202x
Do you agree with the transitions, or was it
just an interesting generation discussion?
I agree with the periods you described. What are your thoughts on this cusp chart?
Prophet/Nomad cusp: 1959-1962 (the new voters in the Reagan v. Carter election)
1959 and 1960 lean Prophet because they were already in high school during the end of the Watergate scandal.
1961 and 1962 lean Nomad because they weren't in high school yet during the end of the Watergate scandal.
Nomad/Hero cusp: 1980-1983 (high schoolers during the rise of Y2K-era trends and college students when 9/11 took place)
1980 and 1981 lean Nomad because they graduated high school before Y2K.
1982 and 1983 lean Hero because they graduated high school after Y2K (this is why they are seen as "Millennials").
Hero/Artist cusp: 2001-2004 (high schoolers during the Notre Dame fires and when people like Billie Eilish started to become more popular)
2001 and 2002 lean Hero because they entered elementary school before the Recession, will graduate high school before this election, and were born before the establishment of Homeland Security.
2003 and 2004 lean Artist because they entered elementary school after the Recession, will graduated high school after this election, and were born after the establishment of Homeland Security (this is why they are seen as "Homelanders").
Anyways, do you think that cusp always has to be perfectly even on both sides, could there be a leaning on one side, like the cusp being just the late part or even early part of a generation until a new generation actually starts when the 100% traits come in earlier than usual (for example: late 40s babies for Boomers), and vice-versa for the end of a generation?