The Crisis That Never Ended

[Eric the Green]

(03-25-2020, 08:24 PM)TheNomad Wrote: Trying to be brief, I read an article that referenced the stimulus packages after 2001..... and the one after 2008..... and now this one.

Did this shit really ever end?  I keep trying to talk about the idea so many people never even went back to work after 2008.  Their jobs didn't exist anymore.  They fell off the tabs of Unemployment Benefits and simply stopped being counted.  But since then, ppl have lived in their vehicles while maintaining full-time job(s) or just moved in with family and never became independent again.  Or, became homeless and never got "back on their feet".

We should not forget all this when trying to examine WHEN did this "Crisis" begin anyway?  It can inform us of where we are IN the Crisis, thus, when it might end.

2008 - 2028?  That seems to be what Strauss is purveying.  I catch him every now and then with interviews.  He is currently working on "The First Turning" book.  I don't know if he has a co-author.

If so, we are smack in the middle if not past the middle.

But my point being, I find it amazing some are saying "The Crisis" as if it happened last week.  For some, there was no Crisis, for others, there was, for some, The Crisis they have been living for a LONG time.

Something tells me even aware individuals like HERE, we are not counting this correctly.  As if the Unraveling had been happening for 3 decades or more.  

Off the cuff without thinking too much, I want to say the Unraveling began around the 90s.  Even The 4th Turning places it there.  If so, that totally fits..... with Crisis in 2008 and now this crap. 

Can we get to a High in 8 years?  Of course, the authors say, every 4th Turning could spell total disaster.  It's not made in stone.

I accept Strauss and Howe dating in The Fourth Turning that says the unravelling began in 1984. That was the year that Reaganomics was cemented into the national psyche after the early years of his term when there was still much doubt about it and protest against it. 1984 was "morning in America" and all generations "acquiesed in indulgence" according to S&H. Yes, it's Mr. Howe writing the books now. He's good, but he doesn't get involved in discussion forums like Mr. Strauss used to do. Interesting that he died in 2007 and just missed seeing his 4th turning prophecy come true.

To me, 2008 is not a long time ago, but for younger people it probably is. Myself, I think the 21st century didn't really begin. With luck, it's beginning now.