03-26-2020, 07:39 AM
(03-25-2020, 08:24 PM)TheNomad Wrote: Can we get to a High in 8 years? Of course, the authors say, every 4th Turning could spell total disaster. It's not made in stone.
S&H originally did not see a progressive bias in the theory. They saw it as neither red nor blue. I know I started to see a Whig bias fairly early, that getting rid of kings, slaves and fascists showed an arrow of progress. A little after that, S&H started to turn their views of the Crises darker. After all, they were somewhat conservative. Progressive might be bad, right?
But certainly we might get through a Crisis without a Regeneracy, without adopting the new values wholesale. I had about given up on a large enough Trigger coming along while we were in the Crisis configuration. Then the Coronavirus came along, (why am I hearing the song ‘Along came John’ playing through my head?) and looks to just about force it. I don’t see a no Regeneracy Crisis happening now.
You seem to be bouncing between science and the Trump fantasy. It is like your heart is red but your mind is blue. You want to relax around Trump saying the flu will pass and we will be relaxing isolation by Easter, but your head knows better.
I have to stick with the science.
I would have to say the Crisis will begin to pass when we develop a vaccine, an effective therapy, or get in the habit of living everyday life while keeping an effective isolation in place. Then we will have a few conferences to strengthen the World Health Organization and the global warming treaties. In short, pressure governments to act on science rather than their ideological fantasies. It is almost like Mother Nature herself had got sick of Fox News and decided to get drastic about it. I can almost see her watching TV and getting ticked. A dedication to the new values is not guaranteed, but likely this crises given that the virus explodes if you don’t isolate. Eight years looks quite enough time to do this.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.