04-13-2020, 02:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-13-2020, 04:05 PM by Eric the Green.)
(04-13-2020, 09:19 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(04-13-2020, 01:49 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(04-05-2020, 07:05 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(04-05-2020, 05:58 PM)freivolk Wrote:(04-05-2020, 01:19 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: The evidence is that places which do have public health care systems tend to have have a lot more fatalities than the US does, though - Italy, Spain, France, basically Europe in general.
Give it a week.
People have been saying that for a month now. We show no signs of catching up.
Well, maybe NYC does.
It's been a week. The USA now has more deaths from covid19 than any other nation. Not per capita though, yet.
It has been a week and Europe still has a lot more deaths than the US has - both accumulated and ongoing.
Austria and Hungary, with their far right governments, seem to be doing fine, though. Do they know something we don't, or are they just not reporting all their cases?
Europe is 600 million people and the USA is 300 million. The number of new cases in Europe has leveled off, except in the right-wing Trumpist-controlled and negligent UK, where its own Trump clone got sick and almost died, and cases are accelerating and increasing at the fastest rate outside the USA. But cases in Europe sans the brexited UK continue to rise steadily. Meanwhile the USA's number of cases more-recently went through the roof and is now almost as many as all of Europe, and still rising much faster. Will the number of deaths follow suit? We don't know yet, but it's on the way. I hope not.
Germany has been the best at cutting down deaths, if not case numbers. They carried out extensive testing. Austria had a spike in cases, but seems to be leveling off now. Authoritarian government whether right or left does seem to work better in enforcing lock-downs and quarantines, and it works. We need to move in that direction now in the USA, temporarily. We need federal action to enforce shelter in place and quarantines, and to develop and distribute needed testing and protective equipment and develop vaccines. Borders, both state and national, must be tightened and all people crossing them tested. How many unemployed people could be put to work, if we had a more "socialist" approach right now and the government started hiring people to do this job? How many people could be employed by industries given work by the national emergency production act, or whatever it's called?
We need national leadership, not neo-liberalism, and we're not getting it. South Korea was able to make progress without being an authoritarian government per se. Japan, Taiwan and Singapore are doing pretty well. The USA is a global disgrace.
California has a small fraction of the deaths and new cases per capita than other big states. It enforced shelter in place early, and people are relatively responsible. But it's still part of the incompetent USA, and in our county, where the infection of the USA may have first appeared, it means that new cases continue at about 60 a day over the last 3 weeks with no end in sight. The curve is flat here in Silicon Valley, but not going down. We still have plenty of hospital resources though. Only about 300 people are hospitalized here out of over 1600 cases. About 55 have died here.
Coronavirus Cases (9 PM GMT):
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
1,917,209
Deaths:
119,090
Recovered:
441,232
559,915 cases which had an outcome:
Recovered / Discharged 441,232 (79%)
Deaths 118,683 (21%)
(figures might increase in a few hours especially for the USA)
place / cases / new cases / total deaths / new deaths
World 1,912,438 +60,181 118,683 +4,489
USA 583,411 +23,111 23,462 +1,357
Spain 169,496 +2,665 17,489 +280
Italy 159,516 +3,153 20,465 +566
France 136,779 +4,188 14,967 +574
Germany 128,208 +354 3,043 +21
UK 88,621 +4,342 11,329 +717
China 82,160 +108 3,341 +2
Iran 73,303 +1,617 4,585 +111
Turkey 61,049 +4,093 1,296 +98
Belgium 30,589 +942 3,903 +303
Netherlands 26,551 +964 2,823 +86
Switzerland 25,688 +273 1,138 +32
Canada 25,552 +1,169 767 +50
Brazil 22,720 +528 1,270 +47
Russia 18,328 +2,558 148 +18
Portugal 16,934 +349 535 +31
Austria 14,041 +96 368 +18
Israel 11,586 +441 116 +13
Sweden 10,948 +465 919 +20
Ireland 10,647 +992 365 +31
S. Korea 10,537 +25 217 +3
India 10,453 +1,248 358 +27
Peru 9,784 +2,265 193
USA Coronavirus Cases:
(will be updated today)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
state / cases / new cases / total deaths / new deaths
New York 195,031 +5,616 10,056 +671
New Jersey 64,584 +2,734 2,443 +93
Massachusetts 26,867 +1,392 844 +88
Michigan 25,635 +997 1,602 +115
Pennsylvania 24,292 +1,372 590 +29
California 23,428 +251 682 +8
Illinois 22,025 +1,173 794 +74
Louisiana 21,016 +421 884 +44
Florida 20,601 +706 470 +9
Texas 13,906 +266 287 +9
Georgia 13,315 +765 464 +22
CA large county / total cases / total deaths (as of April 11)
Los Angeles County 8,873 265
San Diego County 1,761 45
Santa Clara County 1,621 54
Riverside County 1,431 41
Orange County 1,221 18
San Francisco County 872 14
San Bernardino County 810 25
Alameda County 808 21
Sacramento County 699 26
San Mateo County 652 21
Contra Costa County 530 11
Kern County 369 3
Ventura County 309 10
Santa Barbara County 267 2
San Joaquin County 260 15
Tulare County 227 11
Fresno County 201 5