04-19-2020, 01:44 PM
(04-18-2020, 09:22 PM)Ghost Wrote:(04-18-2020, 04:44 PM)gabrielle Wrote:The ringmasters of the alt-right and Antifa were both born in 1978 (Richard Spencer and Lacy MacAuley). There are also some Xennials (1980-1982) in the movement, like Mark Collett (b. 1980) and Ludovic van Alst (b. 1982).(04-18-2020, 01:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(04-15-2020, 04:49 PM)Ghost Wrote:(04-15-2020, 11:32 AM)Blazkovitz Wrote: The alt-right is mostly a gen X thing. You overestimate the influence of certain online contrarians. See some of comments by Camz.I think it seems more like a Gen X and older Millennial thing.
Artists are not supposed to rebel until they have a midlife crisis
What worries me more is the growing abandonment of civilized values in favour of barbarism, both on the right and the left. Identity politics replaces individual responsibility. Futurist aims are considered unfashionable and nostalgia is growing.
The only Gen Zers I could think of that are alt-right are Nick Fuentes, Thomas Rousseau, Jaden McNeil (one of Fuentes' groupies), Naomi Seibt (probably), and some of those mass shooters from last year like John Earnest.
I'm not including those from the r/GenZ brigade from last year and those from r/zoomerright because I am not really sure what their ages are.
I agree with your last paragraph for sure.
The alt right was largely originally a boomer-silent thing. Hannity and the other Fox News idiots, Drudge, the founders of Breitbart, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Jared Taylor, Roger Ailes, are older than Gen X. Gen X members have stoked the movement further led by Richard Spencer who apparently coined the term. I think to call it a phenomenon of video games trivializes the movement and its danger.
Why stop with Boomers and Silents? Right wing extremism has been around in America for a very long time. The alt-right is a late Gen X/early Millennial form of it. The term "alt-right" is Gen X in style, borrowing as it does from terms like "alternative rock" and "alt-country" (I suppose Spencer was trying to cast his message of hate as some kind of heroic fight against the mainstream.)
Gen X is also responsible for antifa, which rose in response to the neo-Nazi skinheads of the 80s.
The only Zillennial (1995-1997) I can think of that is in the alt-right is James Allsup (b. 1995).
Many alt-righters are middle Gen X, as well, like Varg Vikernes (b. 1973) and Billy Roper (b. 1972).
How is Gen X responsible for the rise of Nazi skinheads in the 80's when the oldest were about 17 (and the youngest, about 1) when Skrewdriver became a Nazi band?
I did not say the original skinhead bands were Gen Xers. But Gen Xers were the main recruits in the 80s and 90s, which was when the white power skinhead movement was at its peak, at least in America.
Antifa as we know it today—decentralized networks of anti-fascists confronting rascism, sometimes violently, where ever they find it—can be traced to leftist and anarchist punks in Europe (on both sides of the wall) and in America. 'No Fascist USA!': how hardcore punk fuels the Antifa movement : "The term “Antifa” was adopted by German antifascists in the 80s, accompanied by the twin-flag logo, which then spread around Europe, and finally pitched up in the US after being adopted by an anarchist collective in Portland, Oregon."