05-01-2020, 04:35 AM
(04-30-2020, 05:59 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(04-30-2020, 05:12 AM)Blazkovitz Wrote: So where are the non-SJW people you would call progressive?
SJW is generally a pejorative term. Some of them are abrasive and militant, thus provoking opposition. The name itself represents something fine and dandy; to oppose social injustice and support social justice. So it depends on the behavior of the SJWs whether they might be called progressive or not. If well-behaved and not too offensive and rigid, then I don't see a difference between SJW and progressive; all progressives are SJWs in that case. Progressives may not all be "warriors" in the sense of provoking conflict. If SJWs are also too narrowly focused on one or a few social justice or identity issues, then they may not be environmentalists, and maybe not even be concerned with class and economics. So you could say progressives are broadly-focused and more-polite SJWs.
So, both would fit in the purple sector of my diagram, just SJWs are the extremists and "progressives" are the moderates?
Though I doubt if the term progressive is useful, since the Left has abandoned the idea of progress. Richard Dawkins is probably a proper progressive Leftist. In general the sceptic community stands for progress as it was understood in the previous saeculum, and as I still understand it, but most of them criticise the Left quite harshly like Sam Harris.