09-04-2020, 07:24 PM
(09-03-2020, 12:29 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-03-2020, 10:30 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:I've heard there's several vaccines that are very promising that were entering their final phase of testing about a month ago and the federal government had placed a massive order as well. I don't know if the Democratic party and all their media outlets wanted you to know that or not at the time or at this point either and prefers to keep its voters out of the loop for personal/political reasons of its own. Why are you guys so deaf, dumb and blind and seem so aloof and out of the loop when it comes to knowledge of important information that relates to an issue that scares Democratic voters and empowers Democratic regimes so much these days.(09-03-2020, 05:45 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: The AP is reporting that the US health agencies are getting ready to release a vaccine just before the election. There is conjecture that this is a political decision, that Trump's political people so much want a miracle to happen, for the bug to just go away, that they are going to override the medical people.
The medical profession and (due to vulnerability from lawsuits) pharmaceutical industry insist upon "safe and effective" treatments. The politicians who know about as much about medicine and medical research as they know about quantum mechanics (usually nothing) may insist upon pushing miracles. (It may be surprising, but some of the most advanced medical activity is in veterinary care).
Good administrative techniques could have done far more good than any questionable miracles. Rushed vaccines and medications are ordinarily worthless or inexcusably harmful. We know Trump's record on many things: he is one of the biggest poseurs ever, and poseurs rarely get good results.
Being kind of a practical orientation, I'm waiting for the "plan." Let's say, just for argument that there is an effective vaccine available sometime this year. What's the "plan?"
1. Who makes the exquisitely sterile vials in the tens of millions?
2. Who makes the exquisitely sterile stoppers in the tens of millions?
3. From whence comes the tens of millions of sterile syringes needed to inject the vaccine?
4. How are the shipments divided up, allocated to the various parts of the country/world?
5. Who ships them so that they do not get overheated, over chilled?
6. Once they get where they are going, who picks up the shipments and decides who gets the vaccine?
7. Who decides what order the various folks in the population get the vaccine?
8. Who are the folks that organize the injections?
9. How do they find the folks that need it the most?
10. How are these folks notified that they need it?
11. How do we deal with denialists who don't "believe" in vaccination?
12 ... et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseum ...
I could go on like this for quite a while. What I don't hear is any kind of detailed plan coming out of the Trumpists. What? Is Jared going to take this on? (How did "testing" go?!! We are finally getting around to asking Abbott, the largest manufacturer of clinical diagnostics in the world to start sending out good, fast tests. When, in God's name, will that be underway so that testing can bring this shit to a conclusion??!)
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