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2020 Predictions
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(11-03-2020, 09:32 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The Sabato prediction does jive with JDG's, so it looks like Mr. Glick has looked beyond bias this time and agrees with brower. My salute as well.

My salute to JDG, if not to myself. I never salute myself except when by accident I upvote my own post (and then in horror promptly remove that unfair upvote) on some Forums.  I am not the issue.

This is a well-recognized model of how people deal with grief, but also financial losses, political defeats, defeats favorite sports teams, job losses, failing health, and even prison sentences.

Kübler-Ross originally developed stages to describe the process patients with terminal illness go through as they come to terms with their own deaths; it was later applied to grieving friends and family as well, who seemed to undergo a similar process.[9] The stages, popularly known by the acronym DABDA, include:[10]


  1. Denial – The first reaction is denial. In this stage, individuals believe the diagnosis is somehow mistaken, and cling to a false, preferable reality.

  2. Anger – When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, they become frustrated, especially at proximate individuals. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; "Who is to blame?"; "Why would this happen?".

  3. Bargaining – The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise. Examples include the terminally ill person who "negotiates with God" to attend a daughter's wedding, an attempt to bargain for more time to live in exchange for a reformed lifestyle or a phrase such as "If I could trade their life for mine".

  4. Depression – "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon, so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one; why go on?"
    During the fourth stage, the individual despairs at the recognition of their mortality. In this state, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time mournful and sullen.

  5. Acceptance – "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it; I may as well prepare for it."
    In this last stage, individuals embrace mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. People dying may precede the survivors in this state, which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable condition of emotions.

I congratulate JDG on reaching Stage 5. I have yet to fully get out of stage 3 with a bunch of things that have happened in the last five years(financial ruin, loss of parents, a job that I performed badly in, loss of a beloved dog, never latching onto the community in which I am stranded, and the Trump Presidency.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-07-2020, 05:08 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-09-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-09-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-09-2020, 06:08 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-10-2020, 01:39 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-10-2020, 04:33 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-10-2020, 02:04 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-10-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-16-2020, 10:31 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-17-2020, 11:16 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 03-10-2020, 04:34 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-10-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 03-11-2020, 09:41 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-11-2020, 01:42 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-11-2020, 02:43 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-11-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-16-2020, 06:58 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-16-2020, 08:02 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-16-2020, 02:57 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-16-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by ResidentArtist - 03-16-2020, 04:50 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-16-2020, 10:50 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by ResidentArtist - 03-16-2020, 04:14 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-18-2020, 01:07 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 03-18-2020, 01:09 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-18-2020, 06:13 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by beechnut79 - 03-19-2020, 10:56 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-19-2020, 02:06 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-07-2020, 03:11 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 03-19-2020, 10:49 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 03-19-2020, 02:24 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Mickey123 - 06-07-2020, 11:46 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 06-08-2020, 09:13 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-05-2020, 05:46 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 06-06-2020, 05:28 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 06-06-2020, 05:59 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Tim Randal Walker - 06-07-2020, 09:52 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 06-07-2020, 09:57 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-07-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-08-2020, 09:51 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 06-12-2020, 06:02 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 06-11-2020, 11:26 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 06-12-2020, 06:34 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by TeacherinExile - 08-05-2020, 03:12 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-05-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-05-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 08-05-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-06-2020, 07:27 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 08-07-2020, 01:20 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-07-2020, 06:25 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 08-07-2020, 02:56 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-07-2020, 06:33 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by David Horn - 08-09-2020, 10:04 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 08-07-2020, 01:21 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 11-02-2020, 03:20 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-02-2020, 07:05 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 11-03-2020, 02:12 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-03-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 11-02-2020, 05:31 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 11-03-2020, 05:42 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 11-03-2020, 09:32 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-03-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by JDG 66 - 11-03-2020, 02:49 PM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 11-05-2020, 01:24 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-04-2020, 12:56 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-04-2020, 01:42 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-05-2020, 10:00 AM
RE: 2020 Predictions - by Eric the Green - 11-04-2020, 02:11 AM

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