07-29-2016, 12:38 AM
(07-27-2016, 11:31 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: The real villains are those who propose arrogance over detente. Like we don't have to agree with Putin or anything, but why the fuck are we doing shit in Ukraine and the Baltic. Dumb.
We aren't doing much in Ukraine. As for the Baltic, you have to understand the significance of treaties and alliances. To me it means that Estonia stood with us and sent troops to fight al qaeda in Afghanistan, which they did. They WANTED to be in NATO; the USA did not conquer them or force them in. Ukraine wants to be western oriented too. Who wants to be Putin-oriented? Just some dumb shit Russians living in eastern Ukraine and Crimea.
Look, this is what would happen if we were sane. The people of eastern Ukraine and Crimea would have all troops leave, the UN come in, have monitored and fair elections, and let the people in each area choose by majority vote which country to belong to, and abide by the result. If the people of Estonia want to join Russia again, let them vote for it. They rebelled in 1991. They wanted OUT, so they should be able to STAY out, and be protected by the international community from greedy Putin.
A lawless and insane, violent world results when countries invade others without cause. I opposed the USA doing it; I opposed Saddam doing it. It's not right. Russia has no right in our age to violate another country's borders and conquer it. Period. It must not be allowed. That's why we have alliances and the UN.
Quote:Yeah, let's go to the brink. 2 minutes to defcon 2, that's the ticket. Let's show the world the eagle flies high, all the world's got to be like us. It's the New American Century after all. We're the indispensable state after all. Let's crusade forth and make the world for freedom fries, liberty , and justice for all, because that's the way the US has been and always will be.
Let's have a lawful world where powerful nations like the USA and Russia and small nations like Estonia and Ukraine obey the law and are protected by the law. We can't have that if one nation dominates, and we can't have that if some nations don't do their part. Hey, ever hear of the League of Nations and WWII? Ever hear of not letting the strong dominate the weak? That's a value worth fighting for.
Quote:As far as hacking,I think much fewer computers, especially with any sensitive info, should be on the internet. With no emails. Then they can't be hacked unless there's an intruder in the building, can they?
1. Don't write emails with garbage.
2. Secure your computers. The government and corporate America haven't figured out 4th gen war yet.
Cyber-warfare is coming whether we like it or not. Next target could be the power grid. Now that would suck.
How many NSA folks are locking down boxes instead of snooping all over? Where's the plan to secure cyber assets? Is there a manpower plan? It's like military manpower man. It ain't there, it ain't on the radar, the entire security state has it's ass up the terrorism meme. So there you go. A true cyber attack makes stupid terror attacks look like childsplay. Grid down = game over, over and out.
