(09-21-2017, 09:28 AM)David Horn Wrote:(09-20-2017, 08:27 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(09-20-2017, 05:27 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Speaking of conservatives -- the Party once associated with political and economic conservatism used to be for small-scale government and against debt. They thought competition adequate for economic justice. They believed in rational thought and expected it to overpower superstition and ignorance because of the advantages of objective learning. There would be room for big as well as small players in the economy. Now the last two 'conservative' Presidents stand for monopoly, debt as a generator of income and a promoter of consumerism, and heavy involvement of the government in private-public partnerships -- guaranteed profits to gougers with high costs for us all to bear.
The way you speak I'm pretty sure you're stuck in some sort of time warp where the Trump hostile take over of the GOP never happened. Of course this could just be a canned response you've been dishing out since the 90s.
Trump won an unexpected victory, is under investigation for collusion with an adversarial foreign power and has no governing philosophy I can discern. In what way is that a dominant position in the long term? That said, ,the Dems are splashing around and clueless, so we have no solid party at the moment.
Let's see how this plays out. I doubt 2018 will be a tide-turning event, so it's all about 2020.
Update: in what proved largely a status-quo election the electorate 'fired' Donald Trump in his bid for a second term. He tried to blame liberals for the personal restrictions that COVID-19 made necessary if hundreds of thousands more people were not to die of a respiratory infection that supposedly does not bedevil First World countries. He resorted to violence against political protesters, something new in American history for a President, even to the point of encouraging people with the same sort of vehicle with both a US flag and a Trump banner harassing protesters. The latter looks like what one might expect with a secret police. I mocked the scenario as having introduced the "Trump-Trump Macoutes", an allusion to a nasty secret police in Duvalier-era Haiti.
Some conservatives turned against him on his misdeeds.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.