08-05-2016, 09:57 AM
(08-04-2016, 07:04 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Well since I'm essentially ignoring Playdude's existance...primarily due to the fact that talking to him is like talking to a brick wall (only the wall is more intelligent, and also more well researched), and since Odin has little more than insults to fling about I'm going to address a point brought up by Bob.
The clockwork theory of S&H is quite wrong and one should look at the way society is headed. However, there are other factors in play at the present time. The Megasaeculum and the Microturnings. At present we are in a Mega-Unraveling which means that the whole saeculum has been one of stagnation from the 1T all the way to the present day. If one adds to that the concept of microturnings and that there is a period within the general turning (the ones S&H describe) where the mood of that turning stalls, we are clearly in the unraveling of that turning.
The simple fact of the matter is that the Regressive Left doesn't like the way the micro-awakening turned out. They were rejected, and the Reaganite (which includes the Clintons, yes both of them) establishment from the 3T must be destroyed. As HRC is the personification of that establishment she will as a consequence be destroyed. Her physical decay is as inevitable as her political decay, but I think the political decay will happen far sooner.
Should HRC be elected, that will actually stall the microturning, it will frustrate the momentum of the country, and it will make the person who comes after Trump that much worse. Instead of someone is kinda, sorta, maybe if you look at everything through an ultra-left pc lens proto-fascist, we'd end up with an actual fascist.
Orlov tells us that those things which must collapse ultimately will collapse, that smaller collapses are less severe than larger collapses and that more frequent collapses are less severe than more infrequent collapses. As such I have every reason to believe that should HRC be elected she may be able to hold back the tide for 4 years (if she's really skilled--I'd argue she isn't but whatever) but what follows will be more severe, of longer duration and will almost certainly result in a muted, less high like resolution (since I hate calling 1Ts 'highs').
You and The Donald share a lot of 'attributes' like living in a fact-free zone.
Maybe you two should get a room?