08-10-2016, 10:25 PM
(08-10-2016, 12:17 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote: Compare what the boomers created with what their predecessors the missionaries/lost built and you can clearly see the subpar performance of the boomers. The last saeculum had strong leaders like the Kaiser, Hindenburg, Ludendorff, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Chiang, Antonescu, Pavelic, Tito, Kim-il-sung, Ho Chi Minh, Gloriu-dej, Ceaucescu, Sukarno, Suharto.
Holy cow! Most of those people are just simply evil! If I am to praise people like those I must also praise the likes of Ed Gein, Charles Whitman, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, John Gacy, Geoffrey Dahmer, Richard Ramirez, Alton Coleman...
Why not Karl Mannerheim? He was a spectacularly-competent wartime leader, one of the greatest ever. But he did not leave a trail of dead bodies (except enemy soldiers behind). No, no bodies stacked like cordwood, no half-dead survivors of work to exhaustion on starvation rations, no hostages taken and shot, no people disappearing into the night.... He well saved his own skin.
Imagine the Axis Powers with leaders like Mannerheim as the rule and not the exception, with the Allies as evil. A hint: it is a bunch of Imperial Wizards and Grand Dragons who get called to account for bodies stacked like cordwood, hostages taken and killed, people disappearing into the night, and cadaverous persons milling about in labor camps that the Germans and Japanese liberate.
It is far easier to win a war if one leaves the defeated foe nothing to fight for. Think of the long-lasting resistance analogous to the Polish Home Army that bedeviled the Americans in Germany, Italy, and Japan for several years. Oh, it didn't? Let's see -- give people free elections, strong unions, and prosperity without exploitation... in my alternative history novel, the Americans who don't flee the "Dominion of Oregon" find themselves steadily adopting Japanese culture.
Quote:While the boomers and their selfish "awakening ideals" rammed worldwide mediocrity down our throats. Only in remote regions of the world did the old glorious values survive in leaders such as Idi Amin, Khomeini, Saddam, Milosevic, Tudjman. The first 2/3rds of the 20th century (and basically the entire century in remote regions such as the middle east, the balkans and southeast Asia) was a "bureaucratic adventurer's" Dream world: Adventurers such as Beria, Himmler, Heydrich, Tsuji, Shiro Ishii, Lin Biao, and countless lower ranking Generals and Colonels from numerous different countries (many of these countries often warring against each other) over the decades were able to make names for themselves as liquidators: The worldwide selfish Boomer awakening put an end to all of this.
...and I will take Mohandas Gandhi over all the vicious militarists and rabid nationalists. Agricultural-age society? better his spinning wheels than the wheel of medieval torturers. If you want to see agricultural-age values at their best, then contemplate the Old Order Amish.
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THIS is the era the TRUMP movement seeks to restore, do not see the trump movement in isolation, All those forces worldwide that lost out when the Boomers decided to wreck civilization are backing Trump. Think of the Joker from the movie "the dark knight" and you will see the leading edge of the manifestation, TRUMP 2016.
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The end of the Crisis Era typically sees the best Idealists prevailing -- the ones who recognize that they can never be as pragmatic as the Reactive generation or as logical and technologically-savvy as the Civic generation of the time. They have toned down the self-righteousness of people like Donald Trump who basically says "My way or the highway!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.