09-09-2021, 04:12 AM
(09-09-2021, 12:12 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-08-2021, 11:15 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:Yep, the GOP has been falling along with the Democratic party for a while now. It's just a matter of time before the American people begin to let go of them altogether. In case you're not up on current events, Trump didn't leave a bunch of Americans behind in Afghanistan. BTW, that's the primary difference between Democrats and Americans these days. You deserve what's coming dude. Biden did what an American would never do or accept as an outcome these days.(09-08-2021, 09:46 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-08-2021, 01:28 PM)David Horn Wrote: Let's assume that the Trumpster is actually behind the Patriot Party and not just a willing participant in someone else's fantasy. If so, then having this in his back pocket makes the GOP regulars less likely to buck him out right. It appears, to them, that he has less to lose than they do, when the opposite is closer to the mark. Without the GOP, Trump is just another blowhard without an audience.
What's the GOP without the 70 some million Trump supporters? I disagree, the GOP ain't shit without Trumps base.
Trump had no political base until he decided to run for President, largely due to spite against President Obama. (If you can think of a worse reason to seek the Presidency than to settle old scores or to get fantastically rich through corruption, then tell me).
The GOP used to be known as the Party of Lincoln; oh, how it has fallen!
It is safe to assume that about 70 million of Trump's voters would have voted for practically any Republican nominee. In view of his old age and suspect health at the least, Republicans are going to need someone else as their exponent rather soon.
Demographics do not favor the Trump base. It is already old, and for that reason it is shrinking every year. It has practically no youth appeal, and practically no appeal to young adults. Millennials and Boomers can get along so long as the Boomers don't exhibit extreme narcissism as does Trump. Millennial adults loathe his anti-labor, anti-environmentalist, and anti-education stances.
Boomers deserve some credit for shaping Millennial attitudes, and Trump does not fail the values that Millennials sought to impart upon Millennial children. Trump is a man of cruelty, greed, and bigotry. he is the most despotic person that we have ever had as President.
In my most cynical moment I expect the GOP and the Patriot Party to merge, if on the terms of the Patriot Party. I expect a disaster.
Most Americans are out. Those 100 or so left behind left their decision until it was too late. Those left behind were mostly Afghans with green cards who had helped the American occupation and mission. Many of those were brought out. Now your side does not want them in the USA, which has a duty to them. Biden would have done better to bring all these folks out before bringing the US soldiers out. For some reason 2500 American soldiers made it possible for 300,000 Afghan troops to do their duty, but when the US soldiers left, the Afghan troops left the field. Biden and many others (including me) thought the Afghan troops would keep fighting and keep the Taliban at bay. There was a lack of intelligence there. Much of the USA's investment had been taken by Afghan leaders and corrupt officials, and the troops did not have enough equipment or morale.
Of course right-winger Trump nuts like yourself say Biden didn't just make a mistake; for you he's not an American. But your version of "America" is bullshit.