Trump's people have founded their Party:

[Eric the Green]

(09-14-2021, 05:30 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(09-13-2021, 10:39 AM)David Horn Wrote: Just so you know: there is plenty of wealth on both sides (all sides, assuming you split the GOP into Trumpers and Never Trumpers).  The point is simple: in a democracy it's people not money that's supposed to rule.  That hasn't been true for a long time.  Pick a topic.  A large majority (roughly 70%) favors vaccine mandates, but the minority is still blocking them -- even imposing anti-vacccine and anti-masking mandates.  On guns, roughly 60% wants actual gun controls, and over 80% want mandatory background checks.  On taxes, almost everyone wants higher taxes on the wealthy ... except the wealthy, of course.  I could go on, but you get the point.  Rule by the minority can't go on forever, but the monied interests have found these minority tubthumpers will back their desire to avoid taxes and regulation if they get to avoid vaccines, not wear masks and get to have as many guns as they wish, unimpeaded.

According to Eric, there isn't enough wealth to go around/trickling down on the Democratic side. Eric has been saying/telling me that about the Democratic side for many years. So, why does the 70% favor vaccine mandates when they're already vaccinated themselves and the vast majority of those who get infected aren't severely impacted and don't end up in the hospital or end up dying from it? I think the poll you referring to seems pretty skewed in favor of vaccine mandates. Oh well, I guess revenues and long term survival no longer matter to the corporations/institutions that are going along with the Democrats and supporting/implementing their vaccine mandates these days. As far as gun controls, the gun controls that already are in place didn't stop the last mass shootings that took place (all done by people who passed their ground checks)  or the shootings and the gun related crimes that are on the rise and taking place in blue cities every day either.

David is correct: "Rule by the minority can't go on forever, but the monied interests have found these minority (trump)-tubthumpers will back their desire(s)...."

The Republican states are poorer than Democratic states, because they put trickle-downers/neo-liberals/classical liberals like you into office. Trickle-down economics does not create a prosperous economy, so that's why Republican states are poorer. It is Republicans who suffer from their own policies, which they vote for out of sheer, willful ignorance and prejudice.

Vaccines don't prevent every vaccinated person from getting infected. They strongly reduce but don't eliminate covid sickness. The vaccines may weaken in effectiveness after 6-8 months, especially in those with weak immune systems. I have wondered too if it's OK for the vaccinated just to let the unvaccinated die off; more voters for our side. But the blue side ultimately cares about anyone getting sick, as well as increased vulnerabilty among those vaccinated, also among children who can't get vaccinated yet. The Delta variant is much more infectious, and no-one is sure how many vaccinated people can get sick in the coming months from it. I hope boosters are available soon. But the more unvaccinated people there are, in the world's hotspot (the USA) as well as in other poorly-governed and poor countries, the greater the chance that covid will just continue indefinitely.

Meanwhile, vaccine mandates will assure that we don't have to close the economy again, and make most people feel safer to patronize businesses that mandate vaccines.

I know people on your side want simple, short-term answers. But sometimes life gets complicated. Only Democrats seem to be able to grasp complicated situations, and they blame Democrats if they themselves can't understand them.

The same effect of Republican policies applies to gun violence. I have posted here for years how states with lenient gun laws have more violent crime and gun violence. That may seem counter-intuitive, since blue states include a lot of cities with black and other more-poor populations that tend to have more crime. But overall, it is Republican cities like Tulsa and Oklahoma city that have higher crime and gun violence rates. The gun laws "that are already in place" are woefully inadequate, and so no wonder they don't stop mass shootings. OF COURSE they don't. The USA has by far the most guns, the least gun laws, and the most gun crime of any nation. We are ammosexuals. 

We are the developed nation that is the outlier for having the worst health and social conditions in the world. Trickle-down economics since Reagan has failed, and failed miserably. It has made the USA the most un-equal, the most poor, the most violent, the most unhealthy, the most mentally-disturbed developed country in the world-- by far. That is YOUR "America".