11-21-2021, 05:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-21-2021, 05:35 PM by Eric the Green.)
(11-21-2021, 04:21 PM)Dustinw5220 Wrote:(11-21-2021, 03:51 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't disagree, although I offer the planetary cycle correlation as providing insight into the nature of generational groups. Uranus in Aquarius is very civic. And I certainly think our saeculum has been going global, aligning onto our cycle. The great change of our time is that we have become a global civilization, although also with local and national segments and parts that have integrity and contribute to the whole. The ecological, holistic principles are our guiding "stars" as we move into the future. And we are also parts not only of the globe, but the solar system too. We are not isolated in any way.
I agree that our seaculum is going global in most of (if not the entire) world, though I looked in the old forums a few months back, and saw a post from S&H themselves in which they said that the Islamic world is in a slightly different cycle than ours, they believe their 1T started in the early 1960s and went until the late 1970s and that their Awakening began in 1979 and ended sometime in the early 2000s (I think they also said their 3T culture didn't really kick off until the late 2000s and emulated our 3T in a lot of ways). Now, I know next to nothing about Islam or it's cycles and as the 3T and 4T of the Civil War seaculum proved, S&H themselves can be wrong about the exact dates of cycles sometimes, but what are your thoughts on that, could S&H be right about the Islamic cycle possibly still being a turning behind ours (if their 3T really did start in the early-mid 2000s, then I'm pretty sure Covid-19 would've put it to an abrupt end)?
The 4T certainly came to the Middle East at the same time as ours, maybe a year or so later, when the worldwide recession and the drought struck Syria, and the Arab Spring broke out all over the region as people rose up to petition for redress of grievances and for more human rights. Civil war ensued in 2011, and all of the peoples' movements there have been tragically crushed by tyrants. 4T indeed. The Arab Spring inspired further unrest worldwide in the years since, and the refugees and migrants increased tensions and right-wing movements in Europe and the UK, and eventually added to America's 4T, as they were used as scapegoats by a rising fascist leader here in the USA in 2015-16.
I suppose Eastern Europe could be said to be 1T, if oppression and cynicism is the measure of this. But the rising tyranny and nationalism as well as protests there, to me indicate they are part of the same worldwide 4T trend and the entire European post-migration fascist trends.