I thought I'd throw in - and I'm not sure why I forgot to include this in an earlier post - in The Hunger Games, the successful revolution takes place not long after the 75th annual Hunger Games.
So if we assume that that revolution occurred during "Year 76" after the first Games, and that the first Games took place a year or two after the past failed revolution, that's 77-78 years between the end of the first revolution and the start of the second.
1783 -> 1861 is 78 years. So if we propose that civil wars by their nature cut turnings and/or saecula short, then it fits.
Though, it should be noted that this results in an exceptionally short Crisis. If we assume that the 4T began with the poisonous berries/two winners incident at the end of the first book, that's maybe two years from start to finish. So perhaps the 4T had already begun (though the society as it is depicted at the start of the first book seems pretty 3T), or perhaps it extended for some time after the end of the third book (it seems that a new government had not yet been fully set up at that time), but either way the saecular timing fits.
It should also be noted that there is an epilogue that occurs twenty years later. I assume that would be late 1T, making Katniss's young children in that epilogue Prophets. An "equivalent birthyear" in our saeculum would be ~1955.
Also, in the third book Katniss says at one point that everyone 14 and older in the revolutionary movement is given the title "Soldier" (which is relevant because her younger sister is 13 at the time). If we call that a generational divide, then those 14-year-olds would have been born roughly 60 years after the presumed end of the last 4T. For comparison, the youngest GIs were born 60 years after the end of the last 4T, and the youngest Millennials were born probably 57 years after (2002). Katniss would have been 17 at the time, making an "equivalent birthyear" something like 1922 or 1999. So "Generation Katniss" is an apt name indeed, though I think a better conception of the Millennial Generation splits it into three parts: 1982-1987 (6y), 1988-1996 (8y), 1997-2002 (6y).
Relevant notes about my personal perspective here (let me know if you spot any biases that this could cause): I first read the series during 2011 and 2012, in fifth grade, at the age of 10 and 11. I was living in Mississippi at the time (and hating every moment of it - the Midwest will definitely always be my home). I enjoyed the series a lot, though at the time I don't think I appreciated the true seriousness and darkness of it, and certainly didn't appreciate how relevant it was to the present.
Also, for Eric, as RELFantastic never explained it:
Vine was a smartphone app that became a short-lived but influential cultural phenomenon during the period of roughly 2013 to 2016, centered around posting seven-second-long video clips. It developed a reputation for exceptionally creative (and often a bit absurd) humor in its limited format, and many popular vines are still often quoted by young people today and have left a lasting impact on language. For example, the word "yeet" was popularized by a Vine.
EDM is a catchall term for several genres of electronic music which were very popular during the same time period, seemingly filling the gap between the end of the rock era (~2010) and what appears to be the beginning of the rap era (~2017).
So if we assume that that revolution occurred during "Year 76" after the first Games, and that the first Games took place a year or two after the past failed revolution, that's 77-78 years between the end of the first revolution and the start of the second.
1783 -> 1861 is 78 years. So if we propose that civil wars by their nature cut turnings and/or saecula short, then it fits.
Though, it should be noted that this results in an exceptionally short Crisis. If we assume that the 4T began with the poisonous berries/two winners incident at the end of the first book, that's maybe two years from start to finish. So perhaps the 4T had already begun (though the society as it is depicted at the start of the first book seems pretty 3T), or perhaps it extended for some time after the end of the third book (it seems that a new government had not yet been fully set up at that time), but either way the saecular timing fits.
It should also be noted that there is an epilogue that occurs twenty years later. I assume that would be late 1T, making Katniss's young children in that epilogue Prophets. An "equivalent birthyear" in our saeculum would be ~1955.
Also, in the third book Katniss says at one point that everyone 14 and older in the revolutionary movement is given the title "Soldier" (which is relevant because her younger sister is 13 at the time). If we call that a generational divide, then those 14-year-olds would have been born roughly 60 years after the presumed end of the last 4T. For comparison, the youngest GIs were born 60 years after the end of the last 4T, and the youngest Millennials were born probably 57 years after (2002). Katniss would have been 17 at the time, making an "equivalent birthyear" something like 1922 or 1999. So "Generation Katniss" is an apt name indeed, though I think a better conception of the Millennial Generation splits it into three parts: 1982-1987 (6y), 1988-1996 (8y), 1997-2002 (6y).
Relevant notes about my personal perspective here (let me know if you spot any biases that this could cause): I first read the series during 2011 and 2012, in fifth grade, at the age of 10 and 11. I was living in Mississippi at the time (and hating every moment of it - the Midwest will definitely always be my home). I enjoyed the series a lot, though at the time I don't think I appreciated the true seriousness and darkness of it, and certainly didn't appreciate how relevant it was to the present.
Also, for Eric, as RELFantastic never explained it:
Vine was a smartphone app that became a short-lived but influential cultural phenomenon during the period of roughly 2013 to 2016, centered around posting seven-second-long video clips. It developed a reputation for exceptionally creative (and often a bit absurd) humor in its limited format, and many popular vines are still often quoted by young people today and have left a lasting impact on language. For example, the word "yeet" was popularized by a Vine.
EDM is a catchall term for several genres of electronic music which were very popular during the same time period, seemingly filling the gap between the end of the rock era (~2010) and what appears to be the beginning of the rap era (~2017).
2001, a very artistic hero and/or a very heroic artist