Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Galen]

(09-04-2016, 05:51 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(09-04-2016, 05:40 AM)Galen Wrote:

(09-04-2016, 05:35 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(09-04-2016, 05:28 AM)Galen Wrote:

(09-04-2016, 05:01 AM)taramarie Wrote: of course GI women worked, but in what fields? Back then the sexes were rigidly within certain job roles. Men and women mind you. So not just women. But women were expected to stay at home, be a breeder and take care of children and husband. If they did not do that it was generally thought that she was not taking care of her family and was shamed for it. I actually did research on this for my final year in my Bachelor degree.

Well if they didn't do this then there would be no next generation of human beings.  The view at the time was that someone had to raise the children and someone else had to acquire the resources. At that point in time most of the jobs required physical strength or someone to put in many hours.  Put yourself in the place of an employer and consider the question carefully.  What you see as simple prejudice was a recognition women and men are not interchangeable parts.  As for the shaming part, that was a consequence of not wanting to deal with the delinquents that would show up if the children were not cared for.

Women, when all else is equal, do not make the same choices as men.  This is true even now and it  still has economic consequences that the left, in particular, do not want to recognize.

I spent many hours with the Lost and GIs, trust me on this, they did not see the world as you do.

it should not be expected that women stay at home. it was back then.   The whole point was to give us choices and more freedom. Something I enjoy as a young 21st century woman. Elaborate please on "Women, when all else is equal, do not make the same choices as men."

I thought the Milo video would have made that clear.  Ask yourself this question: Do more men or women die in the workplace?  Do a little research and tell me what the answer is.

Sorry but i have already done my research and what i noted are also factors into the wage gap. I am glad that fellow millie women do not want to go back to older days where we were the house wife and that we are not the knuckle draggers who want to have less freedom to do as we wish with our lives. I personally refuse to have kids and have them chain me down and take away my freedom to do as i wish with my life. I will always push for female freedom from the traditional housewife belief. If others wish to do so whatever. It is their life. But thankfully millie women were liberated from being pushed to be less than what we can be. Thank you boomers for that societal freedom! As for those who want us women to go back into the kitchen and be the servant to the man FUCK YOU.

You are missing the point.  I asked that question to make a point.  Women do not tend to take risky jobs at the same rate that men do.  This has long been known.  Women do not fish for crab or work on oil rigs because they are not allowed, but with notable exceptions, they simply can not do the work required.  This was even more true in the nineteenth and early twentieth century because most jobs were like this.  Many other jobs without these physical constraints simply required more than what we would now consider the standard eight hours.

In 1916 my great-grandmother was cooking for about a dozen farmhands, not an easy job, employed by my great-grandfather, a man I never met.  Now contemplate the photos below and consider whether or not you could have handled what my great-grandfather and the men he hired were doing.  Much of what you were taught and think of as simple prejudice was the product of technological and economic realities that you haven't experienced and don't understand.

I knew men and women from this time and they did not consider themselves to be oppressed.  They were simply doing what needed to be done to survive and raise a family.  While conditions in many cases have changed the Boomers solution to what they saw as oppression has created some serious problems and they need to be resolved. By the way neither my grandmother or great-grandmother considered what they were doing as serving men.  In their cases it seemed to be more like the other way around.  Which makes sense since men who did not support their family were shamed by just about everyone.

Try to remember that unlike you, I knew these people.  As a consequence I had the good fortune to know them and much of the world they lived in.