We are getting old.

[Galen]

(09-23-2016, 04:28 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(09-23-2016, 04:18 AM)Galen Wrote:

(09-23-2016, 04:00 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(09-23-2016, 03:38 AM)Galen Wrote:

(09-23-2016, 02:57 AM)taramarie Wrote: I take it the video you wanted me to watch was "Clinton: ‘Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?’ of Trump?"

My initial reaction was her tone. I am highly sensory given I am an ISFJ so that shrill, angry, point finger at the other tone is a real turn off for me. She sounds like my mother.

Lets remember I am a foreigner so I am not keeping on top of all of the details of the election but firstly if she wants to be elected she needs to change tactic real fast as millennials will have a huge impact on who is elected in November. That tactic is no longer effective for a new generation that has voting power. Many American millies I have spoken to have commented on this also so I am not just talking out my ass here. I am not American but her voice and attitude makes my ears bleed. Bernie was wonderfully rational in tone and manners. He addressed issues and he knew of the plight millies are dealing with on a daily basis which was nice to hear as do you hear of other candidates addressing this other than Clinton trying to morph into the new Bernie? She needs to focus on what she wants to address and how it is to be implemented and quit ripping into the other and likewise for other parties I should add too. 

I do not know of the case of this "right to work" so I have no comment on it. I only hear of bits and pieces on what is going on over there so I have no comment on that. 

Donald Trump stiffing contractors and small businesses.....well I would not be surprised in that regard. He tends to rip off a lot of people, e.g. Trump University as one example so I hear. Trump University: It’s Worse Than You Think

You basically got it right.  I wouldn't expect you to know all of the policy details but they were unimportant to the matter at hand since, as Scott Adams pointed out, no one is actually paying attention.  In my opinion there was also an undercurrent of disbelief and a refusal to accept the possibility that perhaps the electorate really doesn't like or trust her as she thinks they should.  I have seen a similar disconnect from reality in most of the Boomers I have encountered through the years and I don't think its going to change at this late date.  Fortunately my mother never got quite that bad and she is same age as Clinton.

Trump University is not unique and not even the worst offender.  Everybody thought the real estate bubble would last forever and was trying to cash in.  (Hint: This is one of the most important indicators that you have a bubble.)  Truth is, no one would give a shit if Trump wasn't running for president.  I am ambivalent about Trump but Clinton is supported by too many neocons, like Paul Wolfowitz who was in the Bush II administration, who want to keep poking Russia with a stick.  The known quantity of Clinton almost certainly means more war and so its time to take a chance with Trump and possibly avoiding war with Russia.

The usual situation with Generation X, no good choices just less bad ones.

As for the contractors, I haven't seen anything on that so I have no comment.

They should be paying attention. If they aren't that is a terrifying thought. All elections and current affairs should be studied and well known for what is promised and what is not delivered. These people need to be brought back down to earth and remember they are supposed to be a voice for the people. They keep you guys arguing for distraction. Divide and conquer. Media feeds it. They feed it. Business funds it.

Yes she is disconnected from the people and especially my generation as i pointed out. Like hell would I vote for either candidate let alone her. I have heard that Gary Johnson is similar to our Winston Peters. So if I were American I would consider him.

Yes I am sure it is not the worst offense but for someone running to be president it worries me. Would he view his presidency as another way for him to cash in also? It is a possibility. But then again, is that not what all politicians are interested in anyway with their hands in the cookie jar that is big corporations?

Yes, Clinton absolutely means more war. I am unaware of the story of Paul Wolfowitz and Russia. We do not hear a lot of the inside stories of American politics over here.

That is why the Scott Adams blog is so important since it highlights how people actually make decisions.  The arguing in American politics is the product of a puritanical streak that runs through our history and the fact that too much of our society is centralized in DC.  The more power the Feds have then the more various interests try to use it to get special privileges at the expense of everyone else.  No one can be trusted with the Ring.

Johnson is probably the least objectionable of the four but he has about zero chance of winning.  The League of Women voters used to run the debates but after Perot the major parties run it now.  They do everything they can to keep any other candidates out of them, election laws tend to be skewed in the same way.

Paul Wolfowitz is one the people who helped to give us the current mess in the middle east.  Clinton for reasons I can't figure out wants to relive the Cold War.

Hmm interesting. I will look him up.

There also some data on Clinton's warlike tendencies.  Like I said, no good choices.