10-04-2016, 04:39 AM
(10-03-2016, 07:42 AM)Odin Wrote:(10-01-2016, 06:39 AM)Galen Wrote: Truth is southern secession was a last resort measure because they could see no other way to preserve what they saw as their rights. By the way Fort Sumpter was never in any danger of being seized, if it was the Confederacy would never have sent a peace commission in the first place.
THEIR "RIGHT" TO OWN OTHER HUMAN BEINGS. The Southern "way of life" was pure evil and deserved to be destroyed. As far as I'm concerned the Confederacy was something akin to Nazi Germany, it needed to be destroyed just like the Nazis needed to be destroyed.
Its not like Lincoln really didn't gave a shit about it until about 1862, all you have to do is look up his speeches and writings to figure that out. The War Between the States had far more to do with economics and power. Abolitionists like William Lloyd Garrison and Lysander Spooner would have been perfectly happy to let the southern states go. Without the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 slavery would have ended without war as it had everywhere else with the exception of Haiti. It should be pretty clear from the Corwin amendment and its ratification by several of the more powerful northern states indicates that slavery was never an insurmountable issue.
Personally, I would regard ending slavery without the huge body count and the behemoth of Federal Government that we ultimately ended up with would have been a far better result.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
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If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises