Who are you voting for in 2016?

[Kinser79]

(05-07-2016, 07:29 AM)Galen Wrote:

(05-07-2016, 05:41 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Yes, altruism being self-deception or something like that...

He is the only candidate in my lifetime to have actually said that he loves the people who are voting for him, supporting him and so on and it come off as he's completely genuine.  Yeah, Bill had "I feel your pain" but it came off to me as shaking babies and kissing hands.

You may be right.

One thing is certain.  If there was any real dirt on him then it would have been used by now.  I just don't like his generally statist approach but I recognize that he might actually be the best choice available at the present time.

I think anyone actually running for President would have to take at least a moderately statist approach, otherwise why bother running for president?

I agree with you on the dirt.  I fully expect mud to be slung at Hillary the second Bernie supsends his campaign.  Division in the Dems is working in the GOPs favor right now, buying them time to kill the #NeverTrump bowl-movement.  Those who really feel that way will defect to the Dems, pulling it ever further right, and and disrupting the party more.

As I've said above, I see a new political divide emerging on the basis of libertarianism-authoritarianism rather then left-right.  Such is probable nature of mature capitalist democracy.

(05-07-2016, 09:12 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Never let the unachievable Perfect become the accomplice in the destruction of the Good.

Hillary Clinton.

Unfortunately Hillary is neither perfect, nor good.  But if you want someone who is exactly like George W. Bush except with a vagina and being able to speak in complete sentences by all means vote for her.  I'll be laughing when Daddy paints the White House Gold and builds the wall.  Maybe if you're lucky he'll allow people to buy engraved bricks for the wall

(05-07-2016, 12:38 PM)Odin Wrote: I live in a safely Blue state so I can vote for a 3rd party candidate for president without "Nader Guilt". Straight Dem in all the other races.

Voting for a third party is the same thing as voting for Shillary--not that it matters in Minnesota.