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Who are you voting for in 2016?
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I have some things to say about Trump:

(05-07-2016, 05:41 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: I'm not sure why he picked now, why not 2000 when it was rumored he would on the Reform Party.  I do know he's been dissatisfied with the status quo for quite a while, he's had political views contrary to the majority of Republicans and Democrats since the 1980s and almost all of them of an isolationist, America first bend.  The only reason I can come up with his timing is he was waiting for the time to be right.  Like Churchill is reputed to have said "You can count on the Americans to eventually do the right thing, but only after they have exhausted all other options."

The right thing of course being:

--Secure the boarders and ports of entry
--Disentangle from the entangling alliances
--Withdraw US forces from foreign countries unless those countries pay us for defending them
--Stop trying to be the world's policeman
--Establish trade relations that are favorable to US industries
--Build up the internal infrastructure to facilitate more efficient industry and commerce.

That may be just what we need right now, but I have no idea how Trump's gonna do all of that. I still remember him saying he was going to "bomb the shit out of ISIS" if I remember correctly. He also seems too pro-big business to actually want to build up the commercial infrastructure and address economic inequality. I hope he isn't just running for the presidency in his self-interest (make himself richer). The fact that he is a billionaire businessman with no real political experience gives off the vibe that he's just there to support his business peers and take money for himself and these other corrupt businesses. If he's actually running for reasons outside this and actually has an isolationist, pro-American view that supports bringing domestic jobs back here and supports economic equality (and also provides education and healthcare reform), I may support him. But unfortunately, I don't.

(05-07-2016, 03:43 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: As I've said above, I see a new political divide emerging on the basis of libertarianism-authoritarianism rather then left-right.  Such is probable nature of mature capitalist democracy.

That may very well happen. I just don't know which party would take which side.

(05-07-2016, 03:43 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Unfortunately Hillary is neither perfect, nor good.

She may not be perfect but I still believe she's the better of the two candidates. I'm still wary of Trump.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again."
—Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes."
—Mark Twain

'98 Millennial
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Who are you voting for in 2016? - by MillsT_98 - 05-07-2016, 12:15 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-07-2016, 01:02 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-07-2016, 04:19 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-07-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-07-2016, 05:41 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-07-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-07-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-17-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-07-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by MillsT_98 - 05-08-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-08-2016, 10:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-11-2016, 01:12 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-11-2016, 02:22 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Marypoza - 05-11-2016, 07:32 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-11-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-11-2016, 03:32 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Danilynn - 05-11-2016, 04:09 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-12-2016, 09:53 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-13-2016, 07:25 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-13-2016, 07:43 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-13-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-13-2016, 03:27 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by radind - 05-13-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-17-2016, 03:12 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-13-2016, 04:45 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 03:10 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 03:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:12 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Bronco80 - 05-14-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:18 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:29 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:36 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:58 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Bronco80 - 05-14-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 05:07 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 05:12 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 05:16 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 05:32 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 06:03 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-16-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-16-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-16-2016, 08:16 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-16-2016, 08:55 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-17-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-17-2016, 12:52 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-07-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-07-2016, 07:39 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by radind - 06-07-2016, 08:59 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-08-2016, 05:35 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-17-2016, 01:55 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-09-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 08-02-2016, 06:48 AM

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