02-10-2018, 07:18 PM
(02-08-2018, 05:02 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-08-2018, 11:23 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(02-07-2018, 01:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: You base your stated opinions solely on your beliefs and ideology, which is wrong.
Don't you do much the same, with a different ideology?
The red complaint that blues don't listen is pertinent and nigh on universal. The instinct is to assume the other guy is wrong and repeat assertion.
No, I don't. Galen does.
I know the red side complains. People can listen to them, but there's little chance that anyone who is aware and concerned about life would agree with their ideologies. Therefore, they say we don't listen. But people are not all the same; not everyone on the red side is as narrow, rude and blind as Galen is. Sometimes they make good points. No doubt people who vote Republican or conservative libertarian have genuine concerns; they have just been mostly led astray about what to do about them politically.
But blues can respect the reds in many different ways. All people have virtues, talents, and are endowed with life, and as such deserve to be treated as we would wish to be treated, as best we can.
As usual, I point out that you too are no better than you assume me to be in these respects, so people in glass houses....
There's no doubt that some on the blue side can be dogmatic and narrow-minded, and most others like me are pretty well determined in a lot of our opinions, based on real concerns and important ideals, even though we can understand opinions from other sides and know their mistakes and concerns. Most of the dogma on the left probably comes from the identity politics element, such as militant feminists who can't consider any compromise of the abortion issue. Sometimes I find the anti-war element to be so determined in their opposition to USA militarism that they can't conceive that any military action or support carried out by the USA can be anything but wrong. It's like the familiar right-wing phrase as been altered to mean "my country, is always wrong." There are probably others on the left like this as well.