09-05-2020, 05:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-05-2020, 05:39 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
(09-05-2020, 01:16 PM)sbarrera Wrote: pbrower you have a great point about the Crisis not being over and how bad it might looked for the Allies in '41-'42. Is that where we are now? It is possible. So you could call the winners v. losers scorecard current state only. More to come.
It is not quite the same. In the Industrial Age the crisis was a crisis war. It generally took four or so years for the US to mobilize, learn the weapons of the time, and push your way to the enemy capitol. So, it took four years to solve the crisis heart. This time around the problems are different. It doesn’t take as long to get a vaccine. It doesn’t take as long, if you can win the senate and White House, to change the laws ruling violent racist policing. As a result, I have been seeing a shorter crisis. Once the obvious problems have been solved, there will be attempts to make sure it doesn’t happen again then we go on to building fusion plants and stomping on the old values that got us into the whole mess.
Is it like 1941 and 1942? In so far as no one was ready to confront the twin problems of COVID and racism, sure. As 2020 rolled in, we did have the old values in charge. It is obvious that they are not working just now. In 1941 and 1942, the militaristic powers still had their head start. We had not fully mobilized yet, though the regeneracy and selection of political leaders had already occurred by that point. Finding the right generals was still a work in progress. Not quite a perfect match, but close enough.
It could be that we could get another trigger to prolong the crisis heart, but triggers these days are fairly rare.
I think the values shift is well underway. Incorporating science into policy and rejecting racism is a given. We just have to wait on the election and inauguration for the values change to be given teeth.
The winners? The greatest problems facing the culture are addressed. Democracy, human rights, equality and justice are apt to be the winners. Political fantasies that ignore the science and justify ignoring problems will be a losers. Racism will be a looser. But you have to be a little more patient.
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