I Apologize to My Fellow Americans

[Bob Butler 54]

(01-28-2017, 11:28 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(01-28-2017, 07:47 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(01-28-2017, 03:34 AM)Galen Wrote:

(01-27-2017, 06:30 PM)taramarie Wrote: and when i say infringe on others rights i mean other Americans rights. Say in the case of the religious baker who did not want to serve gays. That is what i mean. But dismiss me if you want. I know what i stand for.

A libertarian, other than Gary Johnson, would say that was his right to choose who he does business with.  I would say he is being stupid but again libertarians in general don't see any particular need to protect the stupid from themselves.  Customers can also choose to boycott this baker over the issue and libertarians wouldn't have any particular problem with that either.

Prior to the awakening, especially in the south, overt blatant prejudice was hard wired into the culture.  People of color could not stay in many hotels, eat at many restaurants, use many sanitary facilities, drink at certain water bubblers, etc...  The sit in at the Woolworth lunch counter where blacks were refused service became a symbol of this sort of behavior.  The Supreme Court and various laws passed by Congress made this sort of overt prejudice illegal.  Many have come to understand that if one offers a service to the public, one has to provide that service to the People.

This wasn't because the businesses wanted to segregate nonwhites, though.  It was because the Democrats had passed laws requiring segregation.  Most businesses would have preferred not to have to go to the expense of separate facilities.

Do you have a source on that?  From all accounts I've red on the time period, bigotry far outweighed profits on this issue.  One followed the tradition of segregation or one lost one's white business.  The desire to keep bigot business was a much more dominant economic motivation than the cost of maintaining the extra facilities.

Yes, it was Democrats that ran the south during Jim Crow days.  This was before JFK and LBJ actively sought out the black vote by pushing black issues, and Nixon responded with the Southern Strategy.  Once upon a time, the Democrats were the party of Jim Crow and Tammany Hall style corrupt big city machine government.  The Republicans were the party of Gilded Age robber barons.  Lots of bad options were available in that time.  Things have changed, but not enough.