We are getting old.

[Galen]

(09-27-2016, 11:53 PM)taramarie Wrote: You see, I am also an Apollonian civic like your GI's. We are in the reverse saeculum here. So I am also aware of how another country emerged into the Apollonian saeculum. Our silents addressed issues which had stagnated and our prophets protested and then took it to the power of the law to cement the consensus made. It may happen in a similar sort of way over there. But it is just an example. There will be huge differences, one difference is it may be done  in a different way state by state. But the tone will change no doubt and be more about how to get along together than ripping at each others throats. It will be in a more rational (hopefully non biased) tone no doubt. Here I know that it is that way anyway. It will be interesting for me to see America enter an Apollonian era once more while NZ starts to emerge into a Dionysian saeculum. To see the differences and the similarities will be interesting as atm for me it is like seeing a country tear itself apart in comparison.

The tone may change but the US is functionally bankrupt now and that will force a retrenchment of the size of government.  That will tend to force a decentralization which has already happened with legalization of pot and other matters which was unthinkable even in the seventies.  This suggests the the pre 1865 view of the Federal Government is reasserting itself.  Given other technologies that are in their infancy, it seems likely that the nation state is facing a long term secular decline. Rebellion will depend on if the political class gives in to reality.  Recent history does not make me optimistic.