(09-30-2016, 03:49 PM)Mikebert Wrote:(09-30-2016, 12:17 PM)Galen Wrote:(09-30-2016, 07:21 AM)Odin Wrote:(09-26-2016, 12:28 PM)Galen Wrote:(09-26-2016, 06:53 AM)Odin Wrote: The Civil War WAS about slavery, Tara, that is accepted by every legitimate historian. Galen is peddling extremist far-right wacko propaganda. The Civil War started because people in the southern states believed that they had a right to own other human beings.
Do you even know who Thomas DiLorenzo is?
A far-right crackpot who peddles Neo-Confederate BS. His crap ends up on Reddit's /r/BadHistory board a lot. Most of the posters on that board are actual historians, by the way.
Have you actually read his work and then followed up on his sources? If not then you don't know anything.
O for Christ's sake. http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/~ras2777/amgov/stephens
Lincoln was the one to start the war by re-enforcing Fort Sumter. Prior to that it was the South Carolina that was providing them with food. It was the Union that rejected the which was sent to negotiate the price of federal property and the amount of the federal debt they were to pay. The Corwin Amendment had already passed both the Senate and House of Representatives. Seven of the Southern States had seceded by this time and did not vote on the amendment. It would not have passed unless the northern States were willing to vote for it. Lincoln himself in his First Inaugural Address made it very clear that he had no intention to interfere with the institution of slavery. Since the political elites of both the Union and the Confederacy were in agreement about slavery than there had to be another reason for the war.
Just for the record I won this argument against a very politically correct history professor at Portland State University about three years ago. After I showed him a large number of source documents on the matter from prior and during the War Between the States he forced to admit that I was right about the causes of the that war. He was not happy about it. I am well aware of how the Confederacy felt about the issue but it was the Union that started the war.
Like I said to Odin, read his work and then the source documents written by those of that time before commenting on this. Until you have you know nothing about the subject.
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If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises