10-20-2016, 07:35 AM
(10-19-2016, 07:38 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(10-19-2016, 05:53 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: It's ironic... Barack Obama will probably be recognized as one of the better Presidents, and he is still 'something that rhymes with the name of Roy Rogers' horse'. People at Trump rallies can't wait for the 'baboon' to leave office... never mind that his term is over in three months. Oh, yes, Hillary Clinton is a vagina (well, a not-so-nice word).
Oh, yes.... and 'gay marriage' must be outlawed, never mind that the Supreme Court has ruled upon that.
Well, you have to remember that some people consider the Constitution to be a broad suggestion, that anything written there can be overwritten by a five of nine vote of the Supreme Court. There isn't actually anything said in the Constitution about marriage rights or legislating against sodomy. If you look at common law precedent set during the colonial era, which the court is supposed to do when inventing new rights, you can find a lot more law banning sodomy than rights to marry who you want to marry.
If you believe in a 'living constitution', that five old men can rewrite the Constitution at whim, marriage rights is being sustained only by the tradition that one doesn't revisit cases until some time has passed.
But even same-sex marriage won the majority on the US Supreme Court as laws prohibiting it were proved in violation of basic human rights. Even that had some restrictions; like heterosexual marriages, same-sex marriages would have to involve consent and age of majority and preclude incest. Marriages would have to be between human beings and not with animals, plants, or inanimate objects. Nobody got the right to marry a dog, a tree, a car, or a gun -- let alone a child.
Flagrant inequality, and not denial of selfish or destructive indulgence, is the essence of Supreme Court decisions such as Brown vs. Board of Education, Loving vs. Virginia, and Obergfell vs. Hodges.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.