02-08-2020, 03:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-08-2020, 04:04 PM by Eric the Green.)
(02-07-2020, 10:54 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-07-2020, 01:14 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-07-2020, 12:08 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Hmmm...I assume that you must favor/support Antifa. Me, I'm not siding with either of them. Hint...A real American liberal wouldn't side with either radical group. You see, who kills who and how many of them are killed and injured by each other in the process doesn't matter to me at all.(02-07-2020, 10:52 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 07-Feb-2020 Eric Antifa M
(02-07-2020, 01:27 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: > Quoting yourself now, are ya? Desperate for recognition as usual.
> But since A is my middle initial, you could call me Eric Antifa M
> Being anti-fascism is a good thing.
Everyone is against fascism. Nothing special or unusual about that.
Antifa is against free speech.
I suppose that puts you on the fascist side, in favor of the Neo Nazi and KKK's right to harass minorities? They seem to get creative in their propaganda attempts anyway.
Yes, Antifa is a violent group. I think the term, terrorist applies. Terrorism - the use of violence to achieve a political aim.
This definition is what I use to assign any group or individual. And of course the term applies to any right wing groups who do this crap as well.
I think Antifa is violent, and that's not cool. I sympathize with them, because the fascists really are making a comeback in the Trump era, and they are just saying no and offering resistance. They disrupt speakers, and that's against "free speech." But there's a line between free speech and hate speech, and I don't know just where the proper line is. Ideally, the authorities should not allow hate speech that incites violence. There'd at least theoretically be no need for Antifa's violent actions then.
I wouldn't call antifa terrorists, because they are not attacking innocent people, but resisting neo-nazi thugs. Antifa tactics obviously provide food for the anti-left propagandists, so it's not a wise tactic. On the other hand, resistance to neo-nazis in some way is needed. These latter are not doing the same crap; they are far worse, and we've been down this road before in Nazi Germany. A visit to Auschwitz would seem in order for those who think antifa and neo-nazis are "doing the same crap."
Here is a little reminder of this danger of Nazi hate from ABC News and the children of Auschwitz this week, broadcast after the debate:
Respect all people as our fellow humans, regardless of religion, race or nationality. That's the lesson.
https://youtu.be/w-Ji1e2NVQA?t=8061
I know. This is not making fun of anything. But it's where we're going under the current conman in charge.