Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Eric the Green]

(08-17-2016, 02:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Well, I consider you to be as partisan as X'er.  You've bought fully into the Blue world view and see nothing good in the Red just as Classic goes the other way.  There is a reason why Reagan was elected and became so highly revered.  He did strike a chord with many Americans.  An awful lot of folks still hear that chord to the extent of hearing nothing else.  Just because you cannot comprehend why history unfolded as it did does not in any way imply that there are no reasons it unfolded as it did.

I did say some level of compromise is needed with free enterprise values. But then, blue "partisans" are more likely to be able to compromise and see the other side, than red "partisans," quite decisively so in fact, so to be a "partisan" on the "other side" (the "blue side") today is just to recognize reality. No less and no more than that. That people make mistakes in their votes, is not hard to understand at all. It would be quite fanciful to believe that this does not happen. It happened in 1980. But Reagan was a very attractive candidate. People were deceived and fell for the charming actor. There's nothing hard to understand about that. His horoscope score is 19-5. And that it was a 3T (a late 2T actually), made a turn toward individualism more likely; no doubt. As I said.

Quote:As I've been telling him, there are reasons why conflicting value systems can be popular, reasons why the tides of opinion turn periodically.  Listening to partisans from either extreme, you can see each believes the other to be stupid, mistaken, evil, wrong, a threat to America, etc...  The other side is seen to have few or no redeeming values.  The only correct answer is to obliterate the other faction entirely.  If this isn't done, America is Doomed!  Doomed, I tell you!  Doomed!  The two of you are similarly blind in being totally unable to see or respect where the other is coming from.

Not true at all, of course. There is value to free enterprise. You might ignore what I write; you do that a lot. The right might see me, or you, as socialists. You might see people like me as blind to the other side. But that doesn't mean we are that. But we do say there's a time for decision. We are at that time. It is a 4T, baby! The side that wants to go backward 120 years needs to be defeated now.

But there's no real need to quibble whether Classic is 20 or 120 years behind the times. So if you don't mind, I'll end this argument here. Say what you wish.