02-21-2021, 06:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-21-2021, 06:55 PM by Eric the Green.)
(02-21-2021, 05:06 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(02-21-2021, 04:27 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-21-2021, 04:13 PM)David Horn Wrote:(02-21-2021, 03:39 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: We can only hope that the same thing happens to Trump and his movement that happened with his casino building.
If he implodes, it will be some time before it happens. I suspect his shadow, if not his actual presence, will be felt for the next cycle or two. MAGA losing bigly in 2022/4 will hasten the process, but we have to wade through those elections first.
Look on the bright side. He may be a gift that keeps on giving.
We'll see. I suspect he will fade away rapidly after the current fourth turning, which is his climate and mood. But there may be others later who have such "gifts" for us, as human nature doesn't shift rapidly, except for those wonderful bursts forward in 2Ts, and sometimes during the embattled 4Ts, like ours maybe (?).
For me, the big questions are whether he can keep the big lie of voter fraud in the 2020 election alive, and whether anyone else can claim the place that first Palin then Trump held with the Republican base. Even in the second impeachment he did not produce evidence supporting the big lie. In throwing his insurrectionists under the bus for a shot at delaying the ceremonial counting of votes for a few hours, he may have put the whole movement in an impossible place. I figure the cops are now taking red violence seriously, and that the insurrection is going to be a one time thing. At the very least, the violent people will have to change tactics in a significant way.
It looks like the various justice departments in New York, Georgia and Washington DC will keep Trump in legal trouble indefinitely, We'll see how it all plays out.
I agree, but I am predicting it will take a few years, probably until the end of the 4T in 2028-29, before what is now known as the Trump contagion will have dissipated. It will be as hard to eradicate as covid, and there's no vaccine for it as far as I know. And it could get more deadly with all the military guns around, which these people all possess.
I don't know yet whether Trump will still be the leader through all these following years. I don't see another one on the scene today who could assume his role, except maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene. She has the potential, according to my methods, to succeed Trump, but whether she actually has the ability, the appeal and the drive is far from clear at this point. Trump Jr.'s wife can sure stir up his people too.
Other Republicans could be elected president in 2024, especially if the Democrats nominate Harris, but that's not the same as being the leader of the Trump movement. Rubio, Spencer Cox, Tom Cotton are examples I see who could be formidable candidates. Ivanka too, of course; at least someday. Rubio seems to be trying to position himself for the role by appeasing the Trumpists. Other rising hopefuls like Hawley and Nikki Haley I see as less likely to win. But if Harris is nominated, as the saying goes, even a yellow dog could defeat her.