02-23-2021, 05:36 PM
(02-23-2021, 04:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Lets pretend the nasty racism of old directly associated with the Democratic party was reversed and imposed on white people by the Democratic party of today, what would you do about it? I know what I would do about it but what would you do about it? Would you place your social benefits at risk and switch parties or ignore it and continue voting Democratic? You don't see what we see or hear what we hear or use your logic or common sense to read in between the lines and connect the dots either.
What percentage of the Democratic party is white today? What percentage of New York or LA is white today? I think its pretty obvious that the Democratic party is anti-white and anti-male and anti-American these days. I will also say that the Democratic party is becoming more anti-American worker too these days. The American MLK believers (the minorities who believe in the American way) have already begun switching sides and joining forces with the American (Republican) side. Dude, we are on the cusp of a nation splitting and another Civil War being fought with the Democratic party.
Boy, are you confused. The US Civil War had the cavalier, confederate, southern, rural, agricultural faction against the roundhead, union, northern, urban, industrial faction. The north won.
In the Gilded Age, the Democrats remained tied to Jim Crow, but became the party of the white European immigrants in the north. The strongest example was the Tammany Hall machine in New York, with the the Republicans staying with the Robber Barons and the Democrats supporting (corruptly) the immigrant workers.
While both parties had progressive and conservative wings through the Gilded Age period, with FDR and the New Deal the Democrats became distinctly a progressive party. This solidified with LBJ’s allegiance with MLK in the awakening, and was countered with the Republican Southern Strategy. The Republicans had always favored the Robber Barons. They then took in the racists too. This alliance of elite money and racist votes dominated through the unraveling. Small government, not helping the workers, sending jobs overseas, maintaining the existing power structure without change, not solving problems…. All worked just fine for a time.
Then the turnings turned.
Trump overdid racism and Black Lives Matter countered. It is no longer cost effective to play the race card. That is one big difference come the George Floyd trigger in the current crisis. Racism has become one of the crisis issues. It is no longer a win for the Republicans to play the race card. Trump would lose if he tried, will try, and may drag the Republicans with him, giving them no choice but to run with the old now losing option. As usual in the crisis, one element of the Agricultural Age is being severely dented and the old values are fading.
Now you in order to defend your perspective have redefined a bunch of things backwards. You have redefined words like ‘American’ and ‘racist’ to have the oppose meaning of how most people who live in the United States use the words. This reflects how you perceive things differently than most people who live in the United States perceive it. Sometimes you really do have to be different to be better, but this isn’t one of those times. Compare Trump’s late cabinet with Biden’s and you will be easily able to tell which party is racist and sexist, and which party distributes power reflecting the population of the country.
Now you can continue with your delusion. You can continue to live in a fact free reality. I can continue to debunk your perverted backwards way of looking at things.
But you are not particularly racist, sexist or elitist. You do not spend a lot of time repeating stereotypes or pushing trickle down as an economic strategy. The largest question I have is why you stick with the Republicans as providing any sort of answer. They are the party of stay the same, which is the wrong party to be when the crisis heart hits.
Few if any agree with you? Your value to this site is primarily as an easy target? I’m not sure why I bother anymore?
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.