02-25-2021, 01:00 PM
(02-25-2021, 08:21 AM)But pbrower2a Wrote:(02-25-2021, 02:51 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-24-2021, 02:12 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-23-2021, 08:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-23-2021, 05:36 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Boy, are you confused. The US Civil War had the cavalier, confederate, southern, rural, agricultural faction against the roundhead, union, northern, urban, industrial faction. The north won.Trumps knee wasn't on the back of George Floyd's neck. The knee of a white cop was on the back of a George Floyd's neck. An unfortunate situation that a group of white huber elites pounced on and exploited by directly associating it with racism. You seem about as smart as a person drawn to third world politics these days. I'm sure you'll adjust and learn to live in a world that's governed and controlled by third world politics and a racist political system and you will do whatever it takes to appease them and the growing third world population these days. I mean, your racist anti-white views are way more appealing to them and reinforces their racist beliefs pertaining to whites than an American who is better educated and more knowledgeable of people of different races like me.
In the Gilded Age, the Democrats remained tied to Jim Crow, but became the party of the white European immigrants in the north. The strongest example was the Tammany Hall machine in New York, with the the Republicans staying with the Robber Barons and the Democrats supporting (corruptly) the immigrant workers.
While both parties had progressive and conservative wings through the Gilded Age period, with FDR and the New Deal the Democrats became distinctly a progressive party. This solidified with LBJ’s allegiance with MLK in the awakening, and was countered with the Republican Southern Strategy. The Republicans had always favored the Robber Barons. They then took in the racists too. This alliance of elite money and racist votes dominated through the unraveling. Small government, not helping the workers, sending jobs overseas, maintaining the existing power structure without change, not solving problems…. All worked just fine for a time.
Then the turnings turned.
Trump overdid racism and Black Lives Matter countered. It is no longer cost effective to play the race card. That is one big difference come the George Floyd trigger in the current crisis. Racism has become one of the crisis issues. It is no longer a win for the Republicans to play the race card. Trump would lose if he tried, will try, and may drag the Republicans with him, giving them no choice but to run with the old now losing option. As usual in the crisis, one element of the Agricultural Age is being severely dented and the old values are fading.
Now you in order to defend your perspective have redefined a bunch of things backwards. You have redefined words like ‘American’ and ‘racist’ to have the oppose meaning of how most people who live in the United States use the words. This reflects how you perceive things differently than most people who live in the United States perceive it. Sometimes you really do have to be different to be better, but this isn’t one of those times. Compare Trump’s late cabinet with Biden’s and you will be easily able to tell which party is racist and sexist, and which party distributes power reflecting the population of the country.
Now you can continue with your delusion. You can continue to live in a fact free reality. I can continue to debunk your perverted backwards way of looking at things.
But you are not particularly racist, sexist or elitist. You do not spend a lot of time repeating stereotypes or pushing trickle down as an economic strategy. The largest question I have is why you stick with the Republicans as providing any sort of answer. They are the party of stay the same, which is the wrong party to be when the crisis heart hits.
Few if any agree with you? Your value to this site is primarily as an easy target? I’m not sure why I bother anymore?
Are you sure about the over all validity of your personal interpretations and your understanding of where the country is at these days? Are you sure that you're not an easy/easier target? So, what are you trying to change about me? What makes you think that you have a right to change me? What make you think that I don't have a right to kill a person acting like a Nazi these days or a cult like group of religious heretics?
You believe you are superior to the "third world immigrants" who are "not Americans" (but who are citizens of the USA or aspire to be). What makes you so sure that you are superior or even more educated than they are? I would not count on that. And no, you don't have a right to kill. And yes, you ought to change, but I don't expect you will change as a result of what we say.
I am superior to the "third world immigrants" who are entering the country illegally or currently living here illegally.
More privileged? Yes. You have a more remunerative life for having been born into a family that could give you access to better career opportunities earlier instead of having to toil in dead-end, low-paying jobs for your whole life because you have no connections. But you need many of those illegal aliens around to keep your food inexpensive. Indeed you are privileged to have not needed to run away from a family that brutalizes you physically or abuses you sexually. That is even worse than the economic brutality that people endure through poverty in a plutocracy that generally limits opportunity to advance in Corporate America, owns the political process, and does conspicuous consumption among people who endure great poverty because such is the lot that the economic elites impose as a condition of living in a world that those elites own.
Quote:The better prospects are entering the country legally with the goal of going through the motions and becoming US citizens. You don't know what you got with the illegal immigrants.
Those illegal immigrants have children, many of whom are born US citizens.
Quote:You sugar coat them and market them as honest hard working people but the reality is that you and I really don't know the truth about the entire group.
There is much that we don't know about the family who lives three blocks away, people of ethnic heritage similar to yours, who does sickening things to their children... and may even be successful economically. Maybe they even attend the same church and clubs as you do. Is it brutality, abuse, or exploitation? Maybe it is neatly hidden from us. Nobody erects a sign that reads "I deal drugs" or "I molest my daughter". It is something that we can do little about unless the secrecy fails. By the time the police intervene it is too late. By the time the children enter adulthood they are too messed up to be competent adults, so they do much of what they learned from not-so-dear-old mom and dad or from "Uncle Perv".
Nobody can be a 24-7 ogre, so the people who do the worst stuff try to put on an air of conventionality just to keep the cops and social workers away. It is a sham. I have no choice about Asperger's, and it is probably best that I have sired no children. It's not because I would brutalize, exploit, or abuse them as a person; it is more likely that any children that I would have (like attracts alike) would get a double-dose of the genetic material that messes up much of what makes one fully human. Of all the conditions in the DMS-5, I would rather have Asperger's than anything else. Not mental retardation; not proneness to addictive substances or behavior; not a delusional state of mind; not sexual perversion (I would rather be a homosexual than have Asperger's syndrome, but homosexuality is no longer in the DMS-5); and not being among the behavior patterns that can really hurt others (borderline personality disorder or malignant narcissism, let alone the horrible sociopathic and psychopathic disorders that really hurt people.
You voted for a malignant narcissist bordering on sociopathy. His name was Donald Trump. I saw through him. I have seen his publicity-seeking behavior all his adult life, which begins when I was an adolescent. I knew him as bad news.
Your first sentence of second paragraph brought to mind how serial killer Gary Ridgway managed to elude authorities for so many years. Not only did he hold a job as a truck painter for nearly 30 years, something that not many good people can accomplish in this day and age, but was married to his third wife for 13 years at time of capture. She was completely blindsided because he never even raised his voice to her. She divorced him less than a year later and supposedly sank into a very deep depression after saying that the years she spent with him were her happiest.