02-08-2022, 10:46 PM
(02-08-2022, 09:40 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I wonder if Classic Xer of Minnesota approves of this raid. Cops wearing gloves and full tactical gear, somehow obtain a key and enter an apartment in Minneapolis MN without knocking, and shoot 22-year old musician Amir Locke who was sleeping on the couch and who had reached for a licensed gun. It seems to be a clear violation of the 4th amendment, which says:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The Minneapolis MN police were apparently searching for Amir's cousin Marlon Speed, who was charged with murder. Locke was staying in Marlon's brother's house. Locke was not named in the warrant, which therefore did not meet the requirement of describing the person to be seized and made completely insecure.
Well-known civil rights attorney Ben Crump agreed on this video with my perception before I saw him say it that this raid violated the 4th amendment. He also reports that for the first time a gun-rights organization defended Locke's right to defend himself with a gun against intruders. Locke apparently had no idea the police were coming, and was barely awake when he was shot.
No-knock warrants violate the 4th amendment. 82% of them are obtained to use against black people, Crump says. Brionna Taylor was killed in TN after a similar no-knock warrant used against an innocent black person.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teen...d-82747266
Personally I think having a gun for self-defense is the wrong idea, and it may have cost Mr. Locke his life. But does Classic Xer think the police and his militias have the right to be judge, jury and executioner and "kill criminals" without cause? Does he and people like him think the constitution, including the 4th and 2nd amendments, does not apply to people of color?
This is far from making fun of Trump, the subject of this thread. It is a serious matter. But Trump has called for the police to be rough.
I wonder what would have happened if the police had obtained a search warrant to find Mr. Speed, knocked on the door, waited for Locke to wake up and answer, and then asked him at the door to let them in so they could search for Mr. Speed, showing Locke their warrant. Locke would likely not have carried a gun just to answer a knock on the door. This would have been a regular police investigation, and Locke may or may not have had any answers. Mr. Speed was not there, and the police could have found that out once Locke let them in. Imagine if Columbo have knocked on the door, been polite and humble, was unarmed, announced he was from MPD homicide, showed his badge, and asked Mr. Locke for information. That's the way the mostly-white rich people on Columbo or Perry Mason or their equivalents in real life are treated. But people of color are not given this consideration.
I have plugged dogs as more reliable defenders than guns. Of course I would call the dog back on a cop, but burglars, robbers, and rapists are welcome to feel that they might be meat. If I am not a criminal I will insist on seeing a badge and get the badge number. There are fake cops (an infamous example: Ted Bundy carried a fake police badge), and I will give a full police report on anyone who abuses police power. A hint: real cops hate fake cops.
I have never had a desire to be a cop, but if I were a detective I would be one of those dumb-like-a-fox Columbo types: an annoying fellow whom one tries to drive off with a facile lie. You know how that goes: as J. Edgar Hoover said, every criminal that he had ever met had one thing in common -- that they are liars. Innocent people will tell the truth just to clear themselves.
The cops do not need to be brutal to be effective except in self-defense. Know well: self-defense is often even more brutal than overt aggression. Attack a cop and experience the worst.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.