(09-05-2016, 04:44 AM)taramarie Wrote:(09-05-2016, 04:20 AM)Galen Wrote:(09-05-2016, 03:37 AM)taramarie Wrote:(09-05-2016, 03:32 AM)Galen Wrote:How many families during the 50s were dysfunctional emotionally by being stuck together in an unhappy relationship meanwhile affecting the children compared to now? Clearly it was enough to create a rebellion from that kind of relationship.(09-05-2016, 03:13 AM)taramarie Wrote: I have heard from early boomers about what life was like with a whole family under one roof. They were financially well off and the family was whole but was it always better for the child? Not always. The man or woman would be cheating behind back. They could be emotionally separated and sometimes fighting with the child stuck in the household hearing all of that knowing that it did as much damage or even worse, emotional scarring long lasting effects. So while financially they were better off it was not always a positive story for the couple and their children. So yes there were positives it was as damaging for the children till the couple divorced. Yeah divorce also has negative consequences for a child seeing their parents separate but also financially. Anyway that is just my thoughts after hearing from early boomers what life was like. I am not sure how we can replicate the 50s in a more modernized society. Families have always been dysfunctional. One emotional and the other financial.
On average it worked out better. Trust me on this, I am in a position to know. Look up the crime statistics on children from single parent households some time. It is not a pretty picture.
Fewer than the ones that were screwed up in the seventies. Even the Boomers that were in a good situation rebelled as hard as that may be for you to understand because it just what they did. They really think that they can shape the world arbitrarily with no consquences. They are going to spend their Golden Years denying they did anything wrong because the truth is too terrible for them to accept. Boomers don't ask questions which I suspect is because they are afraid they won't like the answers. For Generation X sometimes questions are all we have, there are very few certainties for us.
Take it from an Xer, sometimes you only get to choose from bad or worse. Judging from the statistics after the sixties, the Boomers have fucked up far more people, per capita, than the Lost or the GIs ever did. I judge them from their results. Truth is, I got far better advice from them then I ever did from the Boomers.
Only through uncertainty can understanding come. You may be far too certain about things for your own good. Only time will tell if I am right about that. In the end it always does.
" You may be far too certain about things for your own good. Only time will tell if I am right about that. In the end it always does." You know me. I listen to both sides of the story and come to the best conclusion I can come up with. I always listen to both sides. Which is why i have so many fights with Eric. Because for him it is always listen to ME AND ONLY ME FOR I HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR ALL BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS RIGHT! Per capita yes of course Lost and GIs would be better than boomers. Some boomers knew no better. Even us millies and the gen xers have learned from hard times to be more careful with money so I have read. But that also is due to broken families, many have no jobs, living at home with parents, and so they literally have no money to spend. Some are saving for homes. Here in NZ we cannot afford homes especially in Auckland (housing crisis). We bus to save money because we cannot afford cars. Yes I also read this too. Hard times early in life teach you some wonderful things to just be careful with your money. That may save us in time. I have seen reckless spending in older folk. My mother is a fine example of credit card spending beyond her means.
As for "They really think that they can shape the world arbitrarily with no consequences. They are going to spend their Golden Years denying they did anything wrong because the truth is too terrible for them to accept. Boomers don't ask questions which I suspect is because they are afraid they won't like the answers."
To them it felt needed at the time. They saw injustice and saw what was needed to balance things out culturally. We all in our youth see what is needed at the time. That was needed in their time as far as they were concerned. For the positive of their result i am grateful to them. We know money is not everything. It sure does help out but who are we to keep people together who do not want to be just for financial security? Is that not selfish? I have no excuse for their generation for reckless spending without reflecting on the dire consequences other than the fact it is generational forgetting, greed and impatience. Many thought good times would always be good. We learned earlier on than them that is not always the case going through the worst recession since the great depression.Plus here in NZ city shattering quakes on top of it. We had it worse here especially. So I learned very quickly at a young age for which I am grateful.
What you see as positive result came at great cost and not just in terms of money. Generation X has paid and is still paying that bill. Millies are too but they don't really understand how high that price is. It is a bill that the Boomers are busy trying to avoid.
I wonder if you can guess what America's greatest cultural flaw is?
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises