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What will happen when this turning ends?
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(12-27-2019, 12:59 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(12-26-2019, 02:26 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(12-23-2019, 03:25 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I am fairly confident the Left will win and continue our economic and ecological transformation toward a sustainable nation and world during the 1T. That would also mean that, unlike if the Right-wing wins, the 2T may actually be somewhat calm and euphoric, even as it could be drastic in the level of change effected on cultural as well as political levels. It could be like Lyndon Johnson without Vietnam, or at least a smaller one stopped by the peace movement before it gets out of hand.

Nothing is preordained.  Trump and the others of his ilk, tapped into emotional tidal waves, and used the anger to their own benefit.  The anger is still there.  The real question: is the anger strong enough to push reason aside again?  If so, then their memes become the new trendline, and counter-narratives will have a hard time being heard.  They've already shown that there is no such thing as too much cheating.

Well, we know for sure that the anger/fear on the Left/liberal/Globalist side is/ has been strong enough to push reason aside for a while now. Us, all we have to do is tantalize and watch as the Left basically crashes and burns. Whatever you thought, rethink because times have changed significantly since the last liberal candidate lied and cheated his way into office. You better wise up and prepare yourself for the rough road that lays ahead for liberals/ liberal politics as the natural sorting out process that liberals are scratching their heads about continues in earnest.

Reason in America is now mostly on the Left, which is regrettable. The Right could use some likes of the late William F. Buckley -- but instead it relies upon rabble-rousers like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity. Even in religion it pushes the Gospel of Wealth more likely to enrich the Pharisees of our time than to alleviate any mass suffering. The Right could in theory embrace competitive capitalism that has done more good for Humanity than anything other than freedom, law, and technological progress -- but it instead stands for a profit motive reserved for an elite responsible to none but themselves while all but themselves are responsible solely to that elite. That is crony capitalism which reserves opportunity to only a few. Give the Hard Right its way and the most meaningful difference between America and the Soviet Union will be that a Hard Right America will not even pretend to serve the workers. That sort of America would resemble the planet Mongo of Flash Gordon serials -- technically sophisticated yet morally primitive. If you want to contemplate what sort of world is the antithesis of such a nightmare, then consider the Old Order Amish, who have obvious limitations due to their rejection of higher education and technologies of entertainment but at least have more social equality, have roles for everybody, and have adequate prosperity for people who don't need cars, cable TV, the Internet, or a "night life". An Amish farm is a far better playground for children than is the Stalinist architecture that children are getting to know in the more prosperous parts of urban America, let alone the decaying slums of cities that our alleged progress has ravaged. Silicon Valley and Detroit are both anti-child in different, yet similarly unconscionable ways. Children need to play in safety.


I have yet to figure out which President was the last liberal nominee to lie and cheat his way into the President. That must be ancient history or apply to some office other than the President. As for "the rough road ahead" we have Donald Trump, a Constitutional crisis in his own right as well as a moral calamity. Trump has been a liar and cheat all his life, and the Presidency has in no way improved him.

By the way... "Globalist" reminds me of what Stalin called people (Jews) suspect to him because they had connections to others in other lands: "rootless cosmopolites". Who are your "rootless cosmopolites", people who do not recognize the local power structure as the fount of all blessings?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: What will happen when this turning ends? - by pbrower2a - 12-27-2019, 02:17 PM

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