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Fearmongering Rampant
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(03-24-2020, 09:03 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(03-24-2020, 06:29 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It also matters which sense of socialism you use.  The Western Europe sense of the government helping the people?  Or the Communist sense of sticking the word 'Socialist' in your name and pretending you care more about the people than the elites.  I would be for the first, against the second, and inclined not to use the word since it is so ambiguous.
Is not Socialism meaning "Group" over "Individual"?  Wouldn't that be an apt description?

It means different things to different people, which is why my preferred definition does not matter.  If you want to obsess over the definition, go ahead.

(03-24-2020, 09:03 PM)TheNomad Wrote: Right now, we are seeing mass implementation of "The Group" as I made another thread about this.  Right now, the individual liberty is taking a hit, everyone is being asked to be tin soldiers moving along to the grocery store then back home, trusting the president and all those people will work this out.

I for one don’t trust the president’s handling of the situation at all.

(03-24-2020, 09:03 PM)TheNomad Wrote: The other way is like France and the Freedom Fries.  They needed to be saved.  We can't be like them.

I personally devour all French Fries or Freedom Fries or whatever you care to call them that come into my house.  No saving.

Now, we have a problem.  By now there is a pretty sound scientific knowledge on how to solve it.  Trial and error solving is what is done come a Crisis.  Science helps.

Tom Clancy and his character Jack Ryan ran into a similar problem in the novel Executive Orders.  Do we isolate in the face of a possible infectious disease?  After letting other characters go at it about the Constitution and individual rights and freedoms against what was needed scientifically, the fictional President Ryan concluded that the Constitution was not a suicide pact, that he was going to do what was necessary and be impeached if he was wrong.  I sympathized with Clancy/Ryan then, and feel the same now.

Now I sympathize that rights are important, but the right to life is first among them.  In the various American Crises, those that got it enlisted such as my great uncle Eugene, putting the needs of the country ahead of their own.  Today, people are only being asked to keep their distance from each other and in many places to stay home.  This seems to be too much for a few.  They are willing to murder others and increase the Crisis period and increase the effect on the economy out of pure selfishness.

I have no sympathy.

Pardon. I suddenly feel like fixing a small plate of fries as a snack. Wink
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Fearmongering Rampant - by TheNomad - 03-17-2020, 09:54 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-17-2020, 10:05 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by sbarrera - 03-17-2020, 10:54 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by TheNomad - 03-18-2020, 12:12 AM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by TheNomad - 03-18-2020, 01:16 AM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Eric the Green - 03-18-2020, 01:04 AM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by JDG 66 - 03-18-2020, 11:00 AM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by TheNomad - 03-18-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Eric the Green - 03-24-2020, 06:09 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by beechnut79 - 03-24-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Eric the Green - 03-24-2020, 11:45 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by David Horn - 03-25-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by TheNomad - 03-25-2020, 08:15 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by beechnut79 - 03-25-2020, 09:36 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Eric the Green - 03-26-2020, 01:14 AM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-24-2020, 06:29 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by TheNomad - 03-24-2020, 09:03 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-24-2020, 10:00 PM
RE: Fearmongering Rampant - by pbrower2a - 03-29-2020, 11:48 AM

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