04-14-2020, 01:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2020, 01:34 PM by Eric the Green.)
(04-14-2020, 11:06 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:(04-13-2020, 02:41 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Europe is 600 million people and the USA is 300 million. The number of new cases in Europe has leveled off
Substitute "EU" or "Euro zone" for "Europe", then. The Euro Zone by itself has far more deaths than the US, and more deaths per day, despite a smaller population.
The number of new cases per day in Europe has leveled off, but so has the number of new cases per day in the US. There is absolutely no doubt that the US is doing better than the EU.
Obviously looking at the graphs and the trends, the USA has shot up at a rate far exceeding Europe's. There is no such leveling off. 26,000 new cases a day while European countries have 3000 a day is not "leveling off." Things are still getting worse in the USA and the UK. Europe includes all the European continent, and that includes Russia and excludes the brexiting British Isles except Ireland. The UK is a land apart, hung up on nostalgia for the British Empire and trending toward Trumpism. It was slow to enact the social distancing and economy-closing measures, and the result is trends like those in Trump's USA.
The USA has almost as many total cases now as all of this Europe, so defined, and about half the population. Whether this later on includes total deaths too depends on whether US policy changes. So far it has not changed, and Trump is trying to reopen the economy. If he does that, and gets that done in the red states, then cases there will continue to rise dramatically and won't level off for over a year. Health care in those areas is poor, and those who get sick will not see a doctor or hospital because it costs too much to go, so cases will go untested and the virus will spread. This will hamper recovery in the blue and coastal states too, and so the USA will not recover anytime soon, and blue states will not be able to reopen.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
(April 13)
country / total cases / new cases / total deaths / new deaths
USA 586,941 +26,641 23,640 +1,535
Spain 170,099 +3,268 17,756 +547
Italy 159,516 +3,153 20,465 +566
France 136,779 +4,188 14,967 +574
Germany 130,072 +2,218 3,194 +172
UK 88,621 +4,342 11,329 +717
China 82,160 +108 3,341 +2
Iran 73,303 +1,617 4,585 +111
Turkey 61,049 +4,093 1,296 +98
Belgium 30,589 +942 3,903 +303
Netherlands 26,551 +964 2,823 +86
Switzerland 25,688 +273 1,138 +32
Canada 25,680 +1,297 780 +63
Brazil 23,430 +1,238 1,328 +105
Russia 18,328 +2,558 148 +18