COVID-19 is the perfect 4T event?

[Bob Butler 54]

(04-13-2020, 10:22 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(04-12-2020, 06:53 PM)mmailliw Wrote: I'll be honest:  COVID-19 was the first thing that had me thinking about "4T" style generational theory in a LONG time!  And it's the first moment that really felt like a "crisis" from where I stand.  Before that, things may have appeared to be very ready to come to a head - but for the most part, it was very easy to pretend (if you wanted) that things hadn't really changed.  2020 'feels' too late to start the 4T, but it does feel very clearly "Crisis" mode in a way that 2001-2004 was not!

(And this is the name I posted under the old forums:  I don't plan on being drawn into generational boundary debates again )

I have to agree that COVID-19 is a crisis-level threat, but the lack of a suitable response is the actual crisis.  I'm not sure that another, vastly more competent leader would have changed anything though.  It's just that Trump is so monumentally incompetent and self-delusional, that the response is already going off the rails, and he sees that as a net positive.  November is still a long time in the future, given the pace of things, and the Donald is seriously talking about opening the country for business.  If that happens, Katy bar the door.

The old unraveling values suggested small government, low taxes, as little domestic spending as possible, and disrespecting any science that tried to show a big problem that required a big government existed. Trump is continuing to demonstrate where these old values don’t work for the COVID-19 problem. He thus falls into the Buchanan - Hoover slot. You can’t really expect a federal response worth anything while he is in charge.

Biden? Is he potential grey champion material? Can he drive a major change? Will the economy be in such bad shape that he will abort other issues? Can’t tell yet.