06-02-2020, 02:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-02-2020, 02:50 PM by Eric the Green.)
(06-02-2020, 02:24 PM)Mickey123 Wrote:(06-02-2020, 01:44 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(06-02-2020, 12:10 PM)Isoko Wrote: The crisis though is not over...it is only just beginning...
The boomers are aging out. People keep trying to extend the crisis beyond the time when boomers are in the prophet-nomad-civic configuration, but I am willing to bet that when the bug is beat, people will be ready to lock down the solution, shut down the old values, and get materialistic again. In other words, they will switch to the high attitude.
In terms of the boomers being in the leadership position, we are towards the end.
This is impossible. You can't magically go from an unraveling culture to a high culture with almost no transition.
If we're near the end, the only way we can get there soon is with a massive explosion of blinding violence and chaos. The U.S. doesn't get out of this crisis without a civil or revolutionary war. The coronavirus is nothing.
The coronavirus is something, and kills more than just the old and the sick, but otherwise I agree with you Mickey. To claim the boomers are aging out and that they are not in the configuration anymore, is unhistorical, goes against the T4T Generations theory, and does not take into account that Silents are still in leadership positions, let alone Boomers. People are living longer today, not shorter, so the long-term trend is now for longer saecula, not shorter. 70 is the new 40. Mr. Howe, the first and still-leading expert on the saeculum, says this 4T will not be over until 2030. He is wiser about this than all of us here who comment on his work.
I have long agreed with him and have said so all through the existence of these forums. We were in crisis already just from the global recession in 2008, as I predicted, and since then we be 4T. The problems that caused it, the inequality of oligarchic rule and lack of economic mobility, have not gone away. Racism still flares up society, as we see, and gun violence is too rampant. The climate change crisis must be dealt with in this turning, or civilization dies. The division of society and the systemic denials of democracy are keeping incompetent, reactionary, dated rulership in power.
We must face these as well as Nature's revenge or we fade away. Big changes will be needed to deal with them. Society will need to mobilize, or choose sides and fight it out. We can't just go back to a high culture without going through a transition to face and beat these problems, at least enough so that we CAN go back to normalcy. Until we get going on solutions and institutionalize them so they stay in motion after the 4T, they will keep flaring up. The D-Day, the Gettysburg, the decisive moment, will come around 2025. 2020 will not be the moment, at least not the decisive one. But it will be the Bleeding Kansas; the catalyst to make the 2020s the true decade of crisis in this fading saeculum.