Donald Trump: polls of approval and favorability

[David Horn]

(11-15-2020, 11:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 10:46 PM)beechnut79 Wrote: Will try naming those states most likely to divide amongst themselves. I would say Illinois, Pennsylvania and Texas. Who else?

I think so.

It would be hard keeping far-northern CA and southern OR blue, since they have already named themselves "The State of Jefferson." One guy put a big sign on Interstate 5 on a barn facing the highway near Yreka CA with that name. Some of the eastern rural parts of the west-coast triad of states might join in this "state." I guess the capital of the State of Jefferson would be Redding (now in CA). Roseburg OR would be a regional capital.

I can hope that the northern Ohio coast from Toledo to Cleveland would join the northern mid-western blue states, so the eastern part of them would be contiguous. Georgia and the Carolinas as well as Virginia might divide territories between urban/coastal and rural/inland territories. It might take a commission to redraw all these boundaries.

Would the two nations be hostile and unable to trade with each other? Red America likes tariffs and walls now. Tributes and tolls would have to be paid to cross the border between red and blue. Also, I doubt Red America would stay in NATO, even though it has the lion's share of US military bases. It definitely would not join the United Nations, and probably not the Organization of American States. It would withdraw from NAFTA and world trade organizations and banks. They would have to decide how much of its natural heritage and parks to destroy. What would they do with Mt. Rushmore?

I doubt Red America could survive for very long. It would have so much poverty that its population would decline and its industry and commerce stagnate. With its poor and black population moving to Blue America, and immigration from Latin America and Africa to it prohibited, it would have a severe labor shortage. Most of the border states with Mexico would probably be blue though, so most immigration would be to Blue America anyway.

Interesting, but mostly impractical. There are several reasons, but let's take the obvious ones:

• The national debt has to be serviced. How is that divvied up, or more to the point, is it?  I don't see the Reds taking any they aren't forced to take, if that's even possible.
  
• Who get's what?  This should tie back to the first item too -- you want it, you buy the part that's not yours.  
  
• What if any provision will be made to change sides later?  I know that a lot of Western Virginia is more like West Virginia and Kentucky, than it is like the urban crescent.  Of course, the urban crescent pays for everything, so initial chest pounding may give way to rational thought after a while.
  

The list can go on and on.  It's BREXIT on steroids.