02-10-2021, 04:07 AM
(02-10-2021, 03:05 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:I have nothing in common with either of you at this point. As far as I'm concerned, you guys can fight over whatever is left of the Democratic empire.(02-09-2021, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-09-2021, 12:39 AM)Einzige Wrote:(02-09-2021, 12:34 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:You are subservient to the manufacturing and extractive capitalists represented by the Democratic Party*.(02-08-2021, 11:50 PM)Einzige Wrote: Your both morons subservient to the capitalist class, but do as you please.I'm not subservient to the capitalist class.
You're not speaking to a Democratic supporter or someone heavily banking on the success of the Democratic party or someone reliant upon the Democratic party for something or another. The Democrats haven't figured out that it's going a lot more than a cheap political victory to break the will of the American people who voted for Trump and turn America into a passive Democratic run society where no one has the right to question some (misogynistic smear excised) with a college degree who works for the New York Times or some racist moron with a college degree who works for CNN or some darker skinned Congressional moron/imbecile with a college degree who works for US taxpayers and some old rich white (vile word excised!) from San Fransisco who has a college degree works for us too. I bet you get a chance to see a 4 Trillion Dollar economy cancelled by American culture and get a chance see what can happen to some arrogant billionaires and some arrogant Democratic politicians with big mouths too.
Einzige is speaking to someone aligned with mirror-image Marxists, the sorts of people who see capitalism much like a Marxist sees capitalism. The difference between you and Einzige is that you endorse the monstrosity that Einzige and I both excoriate. I see merits in a market economy, economic competition, open opportunity for starting businesses, and a political order that supplies people with the means of participating fully in a capitalist system that achieves the equity of socialism without the tyranny of tycoons and bureaucratic elites. Personal freedom, which means living without fear of a despotic leader, and economic efficiency may be worth some inequality that arises from natural differences in competence, effort, and personal sacrifice.
It is not necessary to kill, exile, or dispossess people who have firm belief in the idea that no human suffering can ever be in excess so long as it supports the power, indulgence, and gain of people as bereft of conscience as they are unbelievably-rich in assets. It is enough that such people cannot enforce their sick dreams (a nightmare for most Americans) as the social norm.
If Marxist socialism does not work, then we can at least have Capitalism with a Human Face.