Acting pre-seasonally; preparing for the High

[sbarrera]

(11-21-2020, 11:49 PM)Mickey123 Wrote:

(11-19-2020, 05:00 PM)sbarrera Wrote: As for surviving Cold Civil War II, well clearly the key is to be on the winning side. So far in American history the progressive side has won every conflict, and I think it will work out that way this time as well.

That's because you're defining progressive values as the values which won out. 

In the early 1900s, progressives were in favor of Prohibition, and opposed to blacks voting.  They were in favor of literacy tests to be able to vote.  These policies failed over time, and so are no longer defined as being progressive.

It's easy to say you're always on the winning side when you change your beliefs to match whichever side won.  Many socialists would have defined themselves as being progressive.  If the U.S. had a socialist revolution some time last century, you would say that once again, progressives won the conflict.  As this didn't happen, progressives ended up siding with capitalism, with lots of social programs.

You have a great point. It would be nice to see the major issues broken down in terms of when a party or faction started championing them, and when they became instituted or (as in the case of Prohibition) discarded. Maybe broken down in terms of social/moral issues vs. economic issues.