07-10-2022, 07:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-10-2022, 08:07 AM by Eric the Green.)
(07-09-2022, 03:21 PM)JasonBlack Wrote:(07-09-2022, 09:33 AM)David Horn Wrote: Interesting. You are a tribalist, then. So are 80+% of my neighbors. It's intrisic in some parts of this country, but certainly not all. For me, I'm more closely aligned with Eric's camp here: human first and foremost, with differentiations cascading down from there where approriate.Yes. Morality is mostly a set or principles for survival and making the most out of life on an individual and group level. If you can't look out for your own, they are meaningless. For those with exceptional wealth, and whose families are taken care of, one's circle of concern can gradually grow outwards to encompass larger communities, but even then, when is that ever going to really be past the level of the country (excluding individuals from other countries you actually have a real relationship with)?
The idea that I or any human is an individual on "your own" is a delusion. We are always interdependent at every moment. If you think you are an individual, see how long you can survive in this form without breathing. Even being conscious depends on there being others to be conscious of. We each depend on the Earth for physical sustainance. Indeed, my concern does not have to grow beyond myself, because it inherently is already. It embraces others I know, my community, my country, my world, my universe, because I am interdependent with it all.