Are Some Haters Of Government Sensing The Looming Regeneracy?

[Kinser79]

(03-15-2017, 04:15 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:

(03-15-2017, 11:07 AM)SomeGuy Wrote:

Quote:1. Are we destined to become the modern-day Romans?

We've been modeling ourselves off them since the Revolution.  That's why we have a Senate, and the early government buildings, state and federal, were largely done in neoclassical style.  In terms of parallels, I'd say (with a tip of the hat to Spengler and Toynbee) that we are more around the era of the Grachii and Sulla than the fall of the Empire.

Quote:2. If the feds secede more power to the states, could the former Confederacy basically have carte blanche to restore at least some aspects of Jim Crow, or will the feds retain enough clout for this not to happen?

Do you live in the South?  Was 1965 yesterday?  How old are you?

Quote:3. Stopping behavoirs which are unsustainable? You mean like "free love" become unsustainable with the advent of the AIDS scare? Would the sexual revolution have ended even if there were no AIDS or equivalent?

No, he and I both were discussing environmental/economic practices more than purely social ones.  As for the specific point raised, you could argue that things like gay marriage and the whole transgender thingamaroo are part of it, suggesting it hasn't ended at all.  If you mean the "free love" thing specifically, while it is difficult to speak authoritatively on hypotheticals, I imagine it would have petered out on its own anyways.  The history of "free love" type communities in the 19th century, for one, suggest that it isn't really a stable social model.

In reply to line 2; no, I do not live in the South. I am in the suburban Chicago area; might be noted that MLK once said that the people of Mississippi should come north to learn how to hate. No, 1965 was 52 years ago; I am now 72. What I was questioning was, if more power was again ceded to the states whether the South might make any attempts at this. Some of the voting laws seem to be a step in that direction. I would hope that, in the intervening 52 years that folks there have become enlightened enough not to allow for anything of that nature to resurface.

Black Southerner here.

No.  In the South we've come a long way.  Is there still racism?  Yeah.  Always going to have it.  In fact if anything when I was in the Navy I found racism to be WORSE in both the North and California.  This probably also explains why in the North black run cities turn into Slums but in the South cities like Charlotte and Atlanta, and Birmingham are all doing just fine.

Seriously in the South the biggest racists were the poor whites and they eventually learned better.

As to our voting laws, specifically ID laws, that's a bunch of BS about them being racist.  Anyone can get a state ID at the DMV for 10 bucks (so if you have 10 bucks to buy rock but don't got 10 bucks to get a state ID you don't deserve to vote) and if you drive you already got one.  In many of the Southern states driving is pretty much a requirement as we have a lower population density.  Countries the left likes to trot out as their poster children like Sweden and Norway all have Voter ID laws too.

Seriously if you have to show an ID to board a Greyhound Bus you should have to show ID to cast a ballot.  The ballot has larger consequences than a bus ride.