A revised list of the "bad apples" of every generation

[Ghost]

I made the original list of every generation's bad apples back in 2018, but since then, a lot has changed, and I realized that many of the people I originally added didn't really belong there because they weren't heinous enough and/or weren't that well known/relevant (example - many and arguably even most of the guys I added in my previous list were nothing more than controversial and usually irrelevant people). I'm not going to add every bad apple a generation has, for the reason that was mentioned in the latter part of the previous sentence. This is also going by American generations, although it may not be that accurate to apply them to other countries (like Russia or Germany).

Missionary Generation

• Henry Ford - influencer of Nazism, abuser
  
• Madison Grant - involved in race and intelligence controversy, eugenicist
  
• Joseph Stalin - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator, communist dictator
  

Lost Generation

• Lothrop Stoddard - influencer of Nazism, eugenicist
  
• Benito Mussolini - fascist leader and dictator
  
• Adolf Hitler - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator and dictator
  
• Francisco Franco - dictator and mass murderer
  
• Mao Zedong - mass murderer and dictator
  
• Oskar Dirlewanger - genocide perpetrator, rapist, pedophile, war criminal, mass murderer 
  
• Ferenc Szálasi - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator, corrupt official, war criminal
  
• Heinrich Himmler - mass murderer/genocide perpetrator
  

GI Generation

• Reinhard Heydrich - high ranking SS official, mass murderer
  
• Ed Gein - serial killer
  
• Josef Mengele - Nazi doctor/torturer
  
• Ne Win - dictator and mass murderer
  
• Augusto Pinochet - dictator and torturer
  
• Nicolae Ceausescu - corrupt leader, dictator, genocide perpetrator
  
• Idi Amin - dictator
  
• Pol Pot - mass murderer and dictator
  
• Fidel Castro - dictator, corrupt leader, war criminal, mass murderer
  

Silent Generation

• Gertrude Baniszewski - child abuser and murderer
  
• Marshall Applegate - cult leader and mass murderer
  
• Jim Jones - cult leader and mass murderer
  
• Charles Manson - serial killer and cult leader
  
• Saddam Hussein - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator, torturer
  
• Kim Jong-il - dictator, mass murderer, torturer, corrupt leader
  
• John Wayne Gacy - serial killer, rapist, sex offender
  
• Ted Kaczynski/The Unabomber - domestic terrorist
  

Baby Boomers

• Paul Knowles - serial killer
  
• Ted Bundy - serial killer
  
• Gary Ridgway - serial killer
  
• Pablo Escobar - drug lord
  
• Roger Stone - corrupt official
  
• Vladimir Putin - dictator and corrupt leader
  
• Jeffrey Epstein - sex trafficker and pedophile
  
• David Berkowitz - serial killer
  
• Xi Jinping - CCP leader, genocide perpetrator, corrupt leader
  
• Recep Erdogan - corrupt leader, war criminal, terrorist, dictator
  
• Alexander Lukashenko - dictator and corrupt leader
  
• Jair Bolsonaro - corrupt leader, mishandling the pandemic (this may arguably make him a mass murderer as well)
  
• Terry Nichols - Oklahoma City bomber
  
• Aileen Wuornos - female serial killer
  
• Osama bin Laden - infamous Al Qaeda terrorist/leader
  
• Anthony Sowell - serial killer and rapist
  
• Jeffrey Dahmer - serial killer
  
• Richard Ramirez - serial killer
  
• Ghislaine Maxwell - sex trafficker and pedophile
  
• Viktor Orban - corrupt leader
  

Generation X

• Bashar al-Assad - dictator
  
• Eric Rudolph - Olympic Park bomber
  
• Timothy McVeigh - Oklahoma City bomber
  
• Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - former ISIS leader
  
• Wade Michael Page - Wisconsin Sikh temple shooter
  
• Robert Bowers - Pittsburgh synagogue shooter
  
• Alex Jones - infamous conspiracy theorist and spreader of misinformation
  
• Marjorie Taylor Greene - My opinion only, but I think she is a corrupt official
  
• Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurashi - leader of ISIS
  
• Anders Breivik - Utoya shooter
  
• Eric Harris - Columbine shooter
  
• Dylan Klebold - Columbine shooter
  

Millennials

• Kim Jong Un - corrupt leader, North Korea leader
  
• Jake Angeli/Qanon Shaman - January 6 insurrectionist (I know that many people participated in the January 6 insurrection, but I'm only listing the ones that are well-known/infamous enough)
  
• James Holmes - Aurora theater shooter
  
• Elliot Rodger - Isla Vista shooter
  
• Adam Lanza - Sandy Hook shooter
  
• Dylann Roof - Charleston church shooter
  
• James Alex Fields - Charlottesville car attack perpetrator (again, many people participated in the Charlottesville rally, and it's totally useless to add every single participant on here)
  
• Patrick Crusius - El Paso shooter
  
• Nikolas Cruz - Parkland shooter
  
• John Earnest - Poway synagogue shooter, arsonist
  

Homeland Generation

• Ethan Crumbley - school shooter
  

Things I've noticed

• "Bad apples" of the Lost and GI generations generally are dictators or at least involved in some kind of dictatorship.
  
• Silents have the most variety for bad apples.
  
• Serial killers are usually Silents or Baby Boomers (Ed Gein is an exception).
  
• Baby Boomers have a lot of corrupt leaders and officials.
  
• Gen X has a decent amount of terrorists and extremists.
  
• Millennial bad apples are generally mass shooters, people involved with far-right politics, or both.
  

Edit: To the mods, please delete or lock my original list, which can be accessed with this link: http://generational-theory.com/forum/thread-5188.html

[beechnut79]

For Boomers, how about Anthony Sowell, the Cleveland strangler? Died earlier this year.

[pbrower2a]

(12-30-2021, 11:15 AM)Ghost Wrote: I made the original list of every generation's bad apples back in 2018, but since then, a lot has changed, and I realized that many of the people I originally added didn't really belong there because they weren't heinous enough and/or weren't that well known/relevant (example - many and arguably even most of the guys I added in my previous list were nothing more than controversial and usually irrelevant people). I'm not going to add every bad apple a generation has, for the reason that was mentioned in the latter part of the previous sentence. This is also going by American generations, although it may not be that accurate to apply them to other countries (like Russia or Germany).

Missionary Generation

• Henry Ford - influencer of Nazism, abuser
  
• Sergei Nilus - author of the infamous Jew-baiting Protocols
  
• Grigori Rasputin - erratic mystic that scandalized the Romanov court   
  
• Madison Grant - involved in race and intelligence controversy, eugenicist
  
• Joseph Stalin - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator, communist dictator
  
• Wilhelm Keitel, Hitler's military chief of staff who Nazified the German Armed Forces
  

Lost Generation

• Lothrop Stoddard - influencer of Nazism, eugenicist
  
• Benito Mussolini - fascist leader and dictator
  
• Kenji Doihara - brutal occupation boss, drug trafficker
  
• Hideki Tojo - dictator, warmonger, genocide perpetrator
  
• Andrei Vishinsky - prosecutor-judge, leader of the Moscow purge trials
  
• Adolf Hitler - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator and dictator
  
• Vidkun Quisling - traitor, dictator, and genocide perpetrator
  
• Francisco Franco - dictator and mass murderer
  
• Mao Zedong - mass murderer and dictator
  
• Gavrilo Princip, assassination of the Austrian Archduke, provoking the First World War   
  
• Oskar Dirlewanger - genocide perpetrator, rapist, pedophile, war criminal, mass murderer 
  
• Ferenc Szálasi - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator, corrupt official, war criminal
  
• Heinrich Himmler - mass murderer/genocide perpetrator
  
• Lavrenti Beria, Stalin's longest-serving head of the secret police, serial rapist
  

GI Generation

• Reinhard Heydrich - high ranking SS official, mass murderer
  
• Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, dictator and corrupt leader
  
• John Dillinger - bank robber and murderer
  
• Ed Gein - serial killer
  
• Josef Mengele - Nazi doctor/torturer
  
• Ne Win - dictator and mass murderer
  
• Augusto Pinochet - dictator and torturer
  
• Ferdinand Marcos, dictator, murderer, and corrupt leader
  
• Nicolae Ceausescu - corrupt leader, dictator, genocide perpetrator
  
• Idi Amin - dictator
  
• Pol Pot - mass murderer and dictator
  
• Fidel Castro - dictator, corrupt leader, war criminal, mass murderer
  

Silent Generation

• Gertrude Baniszewski - child abuser and murderer
  
• Fidel Castro - dictator, corrupt leader, war criminal, mass murderer (belongs here instead) 
  
• Ervil LeBaron - cult leader and multiple murderer
  
• Efrain Rios-Montt - dictator and genocide perpetrator
  
• Marshall Applegate - cult leader and mass murderer
  
• James Earl Ray - assassin of Dr. Martin Luther King
  
• Jim Jones - cult leader and mass murderer
  
• Charles Manson - serial killer and cult leader
  
• Haile Mengistu -- dictator, perpetrator of genocide
  
• Saddam Hussein - mass murderer, genocide perpetrator, torturer
  
• Bill Cosby - serial rapist
  
• Cecil Price - perverter of justice (sheriff, betrayed civil-rights workers to the KKK) 
  
• Kim Jong-il - dictator, mass murderer, torturer, corrupt leader
  
• John Wayne Gacy - serial killer, rapist, sex offender
  
• Lee Harvey Oswald - assassin of President John F. Kennedy 
  
• Ted Kaczynski/The Unabomber - domestic terrorist
  
• Kenneth Lay, CEO of Enron Corporation (biggest fraud ever) 
  

Baby Boomers

• Paul Knowles - serial killer
  
• Semion Mogilevich -- leader of the Russian Mafia
  
• Ted Bundy - serial killer
  
• Gary Ridgway - serial killer
  
• Pablo Escobar - drug lord
  
• Roger Stone - corrupt official
  
• Joseph Paul Franklin, racist serial killer
  
• Vladimir Putin - dictator and corrupt leader
  
• Jeffrey Epstein - sex trafficker and pedophile
  
• David Berkowitz - serial killer
  
• Xi Jinping - CCP leader, genocide perpetrator, corrupt leader
  
• Recep Erdogan - corrupt leader, war criminal, terrorist, dictator
  
• Alexander Lukashenko - dictator and corrupt leader
  
• Jair Bolsonaro - corrupt leader, mishandling the pandemic (this may arguably make him a mass murderer as well)
  
• Terry Nichols - Oklahoma City bomber
  
• Shoko Asahara - leader of a terrorist cult 
  
• Aileen Wuornos - female serial killer
  
• Baruch Goldstein - mass murderer/terrorist 
  
• Osama bin Laden - infamous Al Qaeda terrorist/leader
  
• Anthony Sowell - serial killer and rapist
  
• Jeffrey Dahmer - serial killer
  
• Richard Ramirez - serial killer
  
• Ghislaine Maxwell - sex trafficker and pedophile
  
• Viktor Orban - corrupt leader
  

Generation X

• Bashar al-Assad - dictator
  
• Eric Rudolph - Olympic Park bomber
  
• Timothy McVeigh - Oklahoma City bomber
  
• Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - terrorist, serial killer 
  
• Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi - former ISIS leader
  
• Wade Michael Page - Wisconsin Sikh temple shooter
  
• Robert Bowers - Pittsburgh synagogue shooter
  
• Alex Jones - infamous conspiracy theorist and spreader of misinformation
  
• Marjorie Taylor Greene - My opinion only, but I think she is a corrupt official
  
• Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurashi - leader of ISIS
  
• Anders Breivik - Utoya shooter
  
• Eric Harris - Columbine shooter
  
• Dylan Klebold - Columbine shooter
  

Millennials

• Kim Jong Un - corrupt leader, North Korea leader
  
• Jake Angeli/Qanon Shaman - January 6 insurrectionist (I know that many people participated in the January 6 insurrection, but I'm only listing the ones that are well-known/infamous enough)
  
• James Holmes - Aurora theater shooter
  
• Elliot Rodger - Isla Vista shooter
  
• Adam Lanza - Sandy Hook shooter
  
• Dylann Roof - Charleston church shooter
  
• James Alex Fields - Charlottesville car attack perpetrator (again, many people participated in the Charlottesville rally, and it's totally useless to add every single participant on here)
  
• Patrick Crusius - El Paso shooter
  
• Nikolas Cruz - Parkland shooter
  
• John Earnest - Poway synagogue shooter, arsonist
  

Homeland Generation

• Ethan Crumbley - school shooter
  

Things I've noticed

• "Bad apples" of the Lost and GI generations generally are dictators or at least involved in some kind of dictatorship.
  
• Silents have the most variety for bad apples.
  
• Serial killers are usually Silents or Baby Boomers (Ed Gein is an exception).
  
• Baby Boomers have a lot of corrupt leaders and officials.
  
• Gen X has a decent amount of terrorists and extremists.
  
• Millennial bad apples are generally mass shooters, people involved with far-right politics, or both.
  

Edit: To the mods, please delete or lock my original list, which can be accessed with this link: http://generational-theory.com/forum/thread-5188.html

My suggested additions

[Phantom]

Gilded Generation (and foreign peers)

Alois Hitler (1837-1903)
John Wilkes Booth (1838-1865)
Charles J Guiteau (1841-1882)


Progressive Generation (and foreign peers)

Jesse Pomeroy (1859-1932)


Missionary Generation (and foreign peers)

Sergei Nilus (1862-1929)
Henry Ford (1863-1947)
Madison Grant (1865-1937)
George Chapman (1865-1903)
Grigori Rasputin (1869-1916)
Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924)
Albert Fish (1870-1936)
Claus Schilling (1871-1946)
Andrew Kehoe (1872-1927)
Augusta Gein (1878-1945)
Arnold Leese (1878-1956)
Joseph Stalin (1878-1953)
Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)
Arnold Rothstein (1882-1928)
Wilhelm Keitel (1882-1946)


Lost Generation (and foreign peers)

Pierre Laval (1883-1945)
Lothrop Stoddard (1883-1950)
Benito Mussolini (1883-1945)
Kenji Doihara (1883-1948)
Andrei Vishinsky (1883-1954)
Julius Streicher (1885-1946)
Ty Cobb (1886-1961)
Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945)
Ernst Röhm (1887-1934)
Arnold “Chick” Gandil (1888-1970)
Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
Ante Pavelić (1889-1959)
Eoin O’Duffy (1890-1944)
Fritz Todt (1891-1942)
Karl Dönitz (1891-1980)
Mátyás Rákosi (1892-1971)
Francisco Franco (1892-1975)
Hermann Göring (1893-1946)
Joachim von Ribbentrop (1893-1946)
Séan Russell (1893-1940)
Roland Freisler (1893-1945)
Mao Zedong (1893-1976)
Rudolf Hess (1894-1987)
Oskar Dirlewanger (1895-1945)
Oswald Mosley (1896-1980)
Klement Gottwald (1896-1953)
Ferenc Szálasi (1897-1946)
Hans Baur (1897-1993)
Joseph Goebbels (1897-1945)
Lavernty Beria (1899-1953)
Heinrich Müller (1900-1945)
Martin Bormann (1900-1945)
Heinrich Himmler (1900-1945)
Rudolf Höss (1900-1947)
Rudolf Diels (1900-1957)


G.I./Greatest Generation (and foreign peers)

Hirohito (1901-1989)
Hendrik Verwoerd (1901-1966)
Hilde Benjamin (1902-1989)
Trude Mohr (1902-1989)
Albert Bormann (1902-1989)
Georg Betz (1903-1945)
Werner Best (1903-1989)
Alwin-Broder Albrecht (1903-1945)
Ernst Kaltenbrunner (1903-1946)
Reinhard Heydrich (1904-1942)
Albert Speer (1905-1981)
Adolf Eichmann (1906-1962)
Gerhard Engel (1906-1976)
William “Lord Haw-Haw” Joyce (1906-1946)
Ed Gein (1906-1984)
Baldur von Schirach (1907-1974)
Christa Schroeder (1908-1984)
Amon Göth (1908-1946)
Jutta Rüdiger (1910-2001)
Josef Mengele (1911-1979)
Ne Win (1911-2002)
Eva Braun (1912-1945)
Harry Hay (1912-2002)
Kim Il-Sung (1912-1994)
Heinz Linge (1913-1980)
Klaus Barbie (1913-1991)
Hans Hermann Junge (1914-1944)
Jiang Qing (1914-1991)
Peter Hayman (1914-1992)
Augusto Pinochet (1915-2006)
Nicholae Ceausescu (1918-1989)
George Lincoln Rockwell (1918-1967)
David Berg (1919-1994)
George Wallace (1919-1998)
Howard Unruh (1921-2009)
Lee Kwan Yew (1923-2015)
Irma Grese (1923-1945)


Greatest/Silent (and foreign peers)

Idi Amin Dada (1925-2003)
Ervil LeBaron (1925-1981)
Pol Pot (1925-1998)
Ian Paisley (1926-2014)
Efrain Rios-Montt (1926-2018)
Fidel Castro (1926-2016)
Jimmy Savile (1926-2011)
Brendan Smyth (1927-1997)


Silent Generation (and foreign peers)

James Earl Ray (1928-1998)
Billy Martin (1928-1989)
Che Guevara (1928-1967)
Gertrude Baniszewski (1928-1990)
Imelda Marcos (b 1929)
James “Whitey” Bulger (1929-2018)
Rolf Harris (b 1930)
Jim Jones (1931-1978)
Marshall Applewhite (1931-1997)
Félicien Kabuga (b 1933)
Louis Farrakhan (b 1933)
William Luther Pierce (1933-2002)
John Tyndall (1934-2005)
Charles Manson (1934-2017)
John Geoghan (1935-2003)
Andrei Chikatilo (1936-1994)
Saddam Hussein (1937-2006)
Haile Mengistu (b 1937)
Tom Metzger (1938-2020)
Cecil Price (1938-2001)
Bernard Madoff (1938-2021)
Maxine Waters (b 1938)
David Lane (1938-2007)
Tom Reeves (1939-2012)
Lee Harvey Oswald (1939-1963)
Anita Bryant (b 1940)
John Gotti (1940-2002)
Kim Jong-Il (1941-2011)
David Thorstad (1941-2021)
Charles Whitman (1941-1966)
Théoneste Bagosora (1941-2021)
Ali Hassan “Chemical Ali” al-Majid (1941-2010)
John Wayne Gacy (1942-1994)
Ted Kaczynski (b 1942)
Muammar Gaddafi (1942-2011)
James Huberty (1942-1984)
Kang Kek Iew (1942-2020)


Silent/Boomer (and foreign peers)

Bobby Fischer (1943-2008)
Ian Dunn (1943-1998)
Henry Hill (1943-2002)
James Levine (1943-2021)
Gary Glitter (b 1944)
Larry Troutman (1944-1999)
Dennis “BTK” Raider (b 1945)
Rodrigo Roa Duterte (b 1945)
Tom O’Carroll (b 1945)
Joseph DeAngelo (b 1945)
Charles “Tex” Watson (b 1945)


Baby Boomers (and foreign peers)

Joseph Ricci (1946-2001)
Peter “The Yorkshire Ripper” Sutcliffe (1946-2020)
Ted Bundy (1946-1989)
Graham Young (1947-1990)
Charles Albee (b 1947)
Patricia Krenwinkel (b 1947)
Gerry Adams (b 1948)
Jack Tatum (1948-2010)
Edmund Kemper (b 1948)
Wesley Demarest (b 1949)
Gary “Green River Killer” Ridgeway (b 1949)
Leslie Van Houten (b 1949)
Pablo Escobar (1949-1993)
Joseph Paul Franklin (1950-2013)
Martin McGuinness (1950-2017)
David Duke (b 1950)
David Myatt (b 1950)
Jean-Bosco Barayagwiza (1950-2010)
James Hodgkinson (b 1950)
Eric Franklin Rosser (b 1952)
Lenny Murphy (1952-1982)
Harvey Weinstein (b 1952)
Rodger Stone (b 1952)
Vladimir Putin (b 1952)
Charles Bronson (b 1952)
Jeffery Epstein (1953-2019)
Stephen Paddock (1953-2017)
Harold Covington (1953-2018)
Charles Marvin Parker (1954-2013)
Bobby Sands (1954-1981)
Mumia Abu Jamal (b 1954)
Shoko Asahara (1955-2018)
Terry Nichols (b 1955)
Mark David Chapman (b 1955)
John Hinckley Jr. (b 1955)
Alton Coleman (1955-2002)
Aileen Wuornos (1956-2002)
John Bachtell (b 1956)
George Hennard (1956-1991)
Osama Bin Laden (1957-2011)
Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzman (b 1957)
Jesse Anderson (1957-1994)
Ian Stuart Donaldson (1957-1993)
Hassan Ngese (b 1957)
Scott Lively (b 1957)
Jack Abramoff (b 1958)
Jim “Doris Day” Gray (1958-2005)
David Koresh (1959-1993)
Anthony Sowell (1959-2021)
Richard Ramirez (1960-2013)
Jeffrey Dahmer (1960-1994)
Robert Kajuga (1960-2007)
Yolanda Saldivar (b 1960)
Diego Maradona (1960-2020)
John Allen “D.C. Sniper” Mohammed (1960-2009)


Boomer/Gen X (and foreign peers)

Ramon Salcid (b 1961)
“Vissarion” (b 1961)
Armin Meywes (b 1961)
Ghislaine Maxwell (b 1961)
Mary Kay Letourneau (1962-2020)
Cesar Sayoc (b 1962)
Brenda Spencer (b 1962)
Jhon Jario Velásquez Vásquez (1962-2020)
Peter Scully (b 1963)
Johnny Adair (b 1963)
“Fat” Jackie Thompson (b 1963)
Marc Lepine (1964-1989)


Generation X (and foreign peers)

Bill Andriette (b 1965)
William Fleming (1965-1984)
Bashar Hafez al-Assad (b 1965)
Mike Tyson (b 1966)
Malik Zulu Shabbaz (b 1966)
R. Kelly (b 1967)
Ricky Kasso (1967-1984)
Martin Bryant (b 1967)
Klas Lund (b 1968)
Timothy McVeigh (1968-2001)
Mohammed Atta (1968-2001)
Oystein “Euronymous” Aarseth (b 1968)
Adam Walker (b 1969)
Paul Nehlen (b 1969)
Christopher Scarver (b 1969)
Andrew Cunanan (1969-1997)
Robert “Darken” Fudali (b 1969)
Yvonne Felarca (b 1969 or 1970)
Karla Homolka (b 1970)
Tonya Harding (b 1970)
Quannel X (b 1970)
Matthew Hale (b 1971)
Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (1971-2019)
Wade Michael Page (1971-2012)
Marthijin Uittenbogaard (b 1972)
Hani Hanjour (1972-2001)
Clarisa Figueroa (b 1972 or 1973)
Chevie Kehoe (b 1973)
Daniel Lewis Lee (1973-2020)
Kristian "Varg" Vikernes (b 1973)
Wail al-Shehri (1973-2001)
Alex Jones (b 1974)
Yevhen Hapon (b 1974)
Orlando Anderson (1974-1998)
Ricardo Lopez (1975-1996)
Ziad Jarrah (1975-2001)
Khalid al-Mihdhar (1975-2001)
Jason Vukovich (b 1975)
Hendrik Mobus (b 1976)
Jeffery “Ja Rule” Atkins (b 1976)
Derek Chauvin (b 1976)
Satam al-Suqami (1976-2001)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (1976-2001)
Christine Moody (b 1976 or 1977)
Fayez Banihammad (1977-2001)
Michael “Mike Echols” Peinovich Jr. (b 1977)
Majed Moqed (1977-2001)
Pamela Rogers Turner (b 1977)
Ian Watkins (b 1977)
Ahmed al-Nami (1977-2001)
Jared Fogle (b 1977)
Rachel Dolezal (b 1977)
Georgios Germenis (b 1977)
Kenneth Petty (b 1978)
Marwan al-Shehhi (1978-2001)
Richard Spencer (b 1978)
Norbert de Jonge (b 1978)
Haakon Forwald (b 1978)
Lacy MacAuley (b 1978)
Eivind Berge (b 1978)
Scott Paul Beierle (1978-2018)
Waleed al-Shehri (1978-2001)
Piotr Bobak (b 1978 or 1979)
Anders Breivik (b 1979)
Lana Lokteff (b 1979)
Nasim Najafi Aghdam (1979-2018)
Mohand al-Shehri (1979-2001)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (1979-2001)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (1979-2001)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (1979-2001)
Linda Sarsour (b 1980)
José “El Chino Ántrax” Gamboa (1980-2020)
Lindsey Shookus (b 1980)
Steven Kazmierczak (1980-2008)
Debra Lafave (b 1980)
Nathan Larson (b 1980)
Mark Collett (b 1980)
Ahmed al-Haznawi (1980-2001)
Hazma al-Ghamdi (1980-2001)
Carl Herold (1980-2014 or 1981-2014)
Salem al-Hazmi (1981-2001)
Barry Loukaitis (b 1981)
Julius Malema (b 1981)
Eric Harris (1981-1999)
Dylan Klebold (1981-1999)
“Notbrainwashed” “LandOfTheUnfree” (b 1981)


Millennials (and foreign peers)

Paul Goulding (b 1982)
Ludovic “Famine” Van Alst (b 1982)
Luka Magnotta (b 1982)
Jon Venables (b 1982)
Robert Thompson (b 1982)
Kip Kinkel (b 1982)
Tommy Robinson (b 1982)
Michael “DaddyOFive” Martin (b 1982)
Kim Jong-Un (b 1982, 1983 or 1984)
Jeremy Moody (b 1982 or 1983)
Jeremy Steinke (b 1983)
Anita Sarkeesian (b 1983)
Austin Gillespie (b 1983)
Heather “MommyOFive” Martin (b 1983)
Jason Kessler (b 1983)
Seung Hui-Cho (1984-2007)
Patrick Little (b 1984)
Ross Ulbricbht (b 1984)
Alexei Levkin (b 1984)
“Lynn Ann” (b 1984)
Marcello “Psyclon” Mello (b 1985)
“Weev” (b 1985)
“Onision” (b 1985)
Richard Huckle (1986-2019)
Nathan Damigo (b 1986)
Jayda Fransen (b 1986)
Nikko Jenkins (b 1986)
Tamerlan Tsarnaev (1986-2013)
Omar Mateen (1986-2016)
Abdelhamid Abaaoud (1987-2015)
Alvaro Castillo (b 1987)
Colin Kaepernick (b 1987)
Jared Lee Loughner (b 1988)
Patrick Casey (b 1988 or 1989)
Martin Sellner (b 1989)
Chérif Chekatt (1989-2018)
Travis Reinking (b 1989)
Faith Goldy (b 1989)
Cheyanne Jessie (b 1989)
Christopher Harper Mercer (1989-2015)
Aaron Hernandez (1989-2017)
Blair Cottrell (b 1989)
Ian David Long (1990-2018)
Inna Shevchenko (b 1990)
Andres Barbosa (b 1990)
Brenton Tarrant (b 1990)
Seandell Jackson (b 1990 or 1991)
Brittany Zamora (b 1991)
Devin Patrick Kelly (1991-2017)
Elliot Rodger (1991-2014)
Matthew Heimbach (b 1991)
Elliot “Eli Mosley” Kline (b 1991)
Billy McFarland (b 1991)
Adam Lanza (1992-2012)
Randy Stair (1992-2017)
Austin Jones (b 1992)
Josh Mascharka (b 1993)
Asa H Coon (1993-2007)
Jasmine Richardson (b 1993)
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (b 1993)
Savannah Brockhill (b 1993)
“MAPCrusader” “Indian Boy Lover” “AyaanZ” (b 1993 or 1994)
Dylann Roof (b 1994)
TJ Lane (b 1994)
Connor Betts (1994-2019)
Salman Abedi (1994-2017)
Thomas Durpe (b 1994 or 1995)
Desiree Figueroa (b 1994 or 1995)
Zak “pablosunny” Haddad (b 1995)
Joshua Ryne Goldberg (b 1995)
Nelson Maatman (b 1995 or 1996)
Louise Porton (b 1995 or 1996)
Daniel “6ix9ine” Hernandez (b 1996)
Michael Steven Stanford (b 1996)
Peter Cvjetanovic (b 1996)


Millennial (S&H)/“Gen Z” (Pew) (and foreign peers)

James Alex Fields (b 1997)
Veronica “Evalion” Bouchard (b 1997)
Brandon Theesfeld (b 1997)
Alexander Whipple (b 1997)
Thomas Rousseau (b 1998)
Patrick Crusius (b 1998)
Dayton Kingery (b 1998)
Nick Fuentes (b 1998)
Nikolas Cruz (b 1998)
Amos Yee (b 1998)
Shelby Shoup (b 1998)
Jaylen Fryberg (b 1999)
YNW Melly (b 1999)
John Timothy Earnest (b 1999)
Trippie Redd (b 1999)
Kyle Anger (b 1999)
Brook Higgins (b 1999)
“Dan from Long Island” (b 1999)
Sienna Johnson (b 1999)
Vladislav Roslyakov (1999-2018 or 2000-2018)
Kam McLed (2000-2019)
Tay K (b 2000)
Lee Elder Finnegan (b 2000)
Gabriel Christian Natale Hjorth (b 2000)
Bryer Schmegelsky (2000-2019)
Dimitrios Pagourtzis (b 2000)
Sol Pais (2001-2019)
Jo Ann Butler (b 2001)
Frankie Smith (b 2001)
Anissa Weier (b 2001)
“Freetheteens69” “Holocaust22” (b 2001 or 2002)
Morgan Geyser (b 2002)
Jesse Osbourne (b 2002)
Kyle Rittenhouse (b 2003)
“PedophobeHater” “Holocaust060303” (b 2003)
Alec McKinney (b 2003)
Matias “Peluchin Entertainment” Oyazro (b 2003)
“Cranium 99” “Shotacon745” (b 2003)
“Brazilian Spider-Man” (b 2003 or 2004)
Andrew Valasco (b 2004?)


Homelanders (and foreign peers)

“Boy B” (Murderer of Ana Kreigel) (b 2004 or 2005)
“Boy A” (Murderer of Ana Kreigel) (b 2004 or 2005)
“Joseph” (From Freespeechtube) (b 2004 or 2005)
Preston McDuffie (b 2005)
“AlexJasonWalker” “YouthRightsActivist” “sonicbro2000” (b allegedly 2006)
Ethan Crumbley (b 2006)
Kaia James (b 2006)
Claire Miller (b 2007)
“OmegaKitten” (b allegedly 2011)

[Ghost]

(12-31-2021, 10:11 AM)Phantom Wrote: Gilded Generation (and foreign peers)

Alois Hitler (1837-1903)
John Wilkes Booth (1838-1865)
Charles J Guiteau (1841-1882)


Progressive Generation (and foreign peers)

Jesse Pomeroy (1859-1932)


Missionary Generation (and foreign peers)

Sergei Nilus (1862-1929)
Henry Ford (1863-1947)
Madison Grant (1865-1937)
George Chapman (1865-1903)
Grigori Rasputin (1869-1916)
Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924)
Albert Fish (1870-1936)
Claus Schilling (1871-1946)
Andrew Kehoe (1872-1927)
Augusta Gein (1878-1945)
Arnold Leese (1878-1956)
Joseph Stalin (1878-1953)
Leon Trotsky (1879-1940)
Arnold Rothstein (1882-1928)
Wilhelm Keitel (1882-1946)


Lost Generation (and foreign peers)

Pierre Laval (1883-1945)
Lothrop Stoddard (1883-1950)
Benito Mussolini (1883-1945)
Kenji Doihara (1883-1948)
Andrei Vishinsky (1883-1954)
Julius Streicher (1885-1946)
Ty Cobb (1886-1961)
Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945)
Ernst Röhm (1887-1934)
Arnold “Chick” Gandil (1888-1970)
Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
Ante Pavelić (1889-1959)
Eoin O’Duffy (1890-1944)
Fritz Todt (1891-1942)
Karl Dönitz (1891-1980)
Mátyás Rákosi (1892-1971)
Francisco Franco (1892-1975)
Hermann Göring (1893-1946)
Joachim von Ribbentrop (1893-1946)
Séan Russell (1893-1940)
Roland Freisler (1893-1945)
Mao Zedong (1893-1976)
Rudolf Hess (1894-1987)
Oskar Dirlewanger (1895-1945)
Oswald Mosley (1896-1980)
Klement Gottwald (1896-1953)
Ferenc Szálasi (1897-1946)
Hans Baur (1897-1993)
Joseph Goebbels (1897-1945)
Lavernty Beria (1899-1953)
Heinrich Müller (1900-1945)
Martin Bormann (1900-1945)
Heinrich Himmler (1900-1945)
Rudolf Höss (1900-1947)
Rudolf Diels (1900-1957)


G.I./Greatest Generation (and foreign peers)

Hirohito (1901-1989)
Hendrik Verwoerd (1901-1966)
Hilde Benjamin (1902-1989)
Trude Mohr (1902-1989)
Albert Bormann (1902-1989)
Georg Betz (1903-1945)
Werner Best (1903-1989)
Alwin-Broder Albrecht (1903-1945)
Ernst Kaltenbrunner (1903-1946)
Reinhard Heydrich (1904-1942)
Albert Speer (1905-1981)
Adolf Eichmann (1906-1962)
Gerhard Engel (1906-1976)
William “Lord Haw-Haw” Joyce (1906-1946)
Ed Gein (1906-1984)
Baldur von Schirach (1907-1974)
Christa Schroeder (1908-1984)
Amon Göth (1908-1946)
Jutta Rüdiger (1910-2001)
Josef Mengele (1911-1979)
Ne Win (1911-2002)
Eva Braun (1912-1945)
Harry Hay (1912-2002)
Kim Il-Sung (1912-1994)
Heinz Linge (1913-1980)
Klaus Barbie (1913-1991)
Hans Hermann Junge (1914-1944)
Jiang Qing (1914-1991)
Peter Hayman (1914-1992)
Augusto Pinochet (1915-2006)
Nicholae Ceausescu (1918-1989)
George Lincoln Rockwell (1918-1967)
David Berg (1919-1994)
George Wallace (1919-1998)
Howard Unruh (1921-2009)
Lee Kwan Yew (1923-2015)
Irma Grese (1923-1945)


Greatest/Silent (and foreign peers)

Idi Amin Dada (1925-2003)
Ervil LeBaron (1925-1981)
Pol Pot (1925-1998)
Ian Paisley (1926-2014)
Efrain Rios-Montt (1926-2018)
Fidel Castro (1926-2016)
Jimmy Savile (1926-2011)
Brendan Smyth (1927-1997)


Silent Generation (and foreign peers)

James Earl Ray (1928-1998)
Billy Martin (1928-1989)
Che Guevara (1928-1967)
Gertrude Baniszewski (1928-1990)
Imelda Marcos (b 1929)
James “Whitey” Bulger (1929-2018)
Rolf Harris (b 1930)
Jim Jones (1931-1978)
Marshall Applewhite (1931-1997)
Félicien Kabuga (b 1933)
Louis Farrakhan (b 1933)
William Luther Pierce (1933-2002)
John Tyndall (1934-2005)
Charles Manson (1934-2017)
John Geoghan (1935-2003)
Andrei Chikatilo (1936-1994)
Saddam Hussein (1937-2006)
Haile Mengistu (b 1937)
Tom Metzger (1938-2020)
Cecil Price (1938-2001)
Bernard Madoff (1938-2021)
Maxine Waters (b 1938)
David Lane (1938-2007)
Tom Reeves (1939-2012)
Lee Harvey Oswald (1939-1963)
Anita Bryant (b 1940)
John Gotti (1940-2002)
Kim Jong-Il (1941-2011)
David Thorstad (1941-2021)
Charles Whitman (1941-1966)
Théoneste Bagosora (1941-2021)
Ali Hassan “Chemical Ali” al-Majid (1941-2010)
John Wayne Gacy (1942-1994)
Ted Kaczynski (b 1942)
Muammar Gaddafi (1942-2011)
James Huberty (1942-1984)
Kang Kek Iew (1942-2020)


Silent/Boomer (and foreign peers)

Bobby Fischer (1943-2008)
Ian Dunn (1943-1998)
Henry Hill (1943-2002)
James Levine (1943-2021)
Gary Glitter (b 1944)
Larry Troutman (1944-1999)
Dennis “BTK” Raider (b 1945)
Rodrigo Roa Duterte (b 1945)
Tom O’Carroll (b 1945)
Joseph DeAngelo (b 1945)
Charles “Tex” Watson (b 1945)


Baby Boomers (and foreign peers)

Joseph Ricci (1946-2001)
Peter “The Yorkshire Ripper” Sutcliffe (1946-2020)
Ted Bundy (1946-1989)
Graham Young (1947-1990)
Charles Albee (b 1947)
Patricia Krenwinkel (b 1947)
Gerry Adams (b 1948)
Jack Tatum (1948-2010)
Edmund Kemper (b 1948)
Wesley Demarest (b 1949)
Gary “Green River Killer” Ridgeway (b 1949)
Leslie Van Houten (b 1949)
Pablo Escobar (1949-1993)
Joseph Paul Franklin (1950-2013)
Martin McGuinness (1950-2017)
David Duke (b 1950)
David Myatt (b 1950)
Jean-Bosco Barayagwiza (1950-2010)
James Hodgkinson (b 1950)
Eric Franklin Rosser (b 1952)
Lenny Murphy (1952-1982)
Harvey Weinstein (b 1952)
Rodger Stone (b 1952)
Vladimir Putin (b 1952)
Charles Bronson (b 1952)
Jeffery Epstein (1953-2019)
Stephen Paddock (1953-2017)
Harold Covington (1953-2018)
Charles Marvin Parker (1954-2013)
Bobby Sands (1954-1981)
Mumia Abu Jamal (b 1954)
Shoko Asahara (1955-2018)
Terry Nichols (b 1955)
Mark David Chapman (b 1955)
John Hinckley Jr. (b 1955)
Alton Coleman (1955-2002)
Aileen Wuornos (1956-2002)
John Bachtell (b 1956)
George Hennard (1956-1991)
Osama Bin Laden (1957-2011)
Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzman (b 1957)
Jesse Anderson (1957-1994)
Ian Stuart Donaldson (1957-1993)
Hassan Ngese (b 1957)
Scott Lively (b 1957)
Jack Abramoff (b 1958)
Jim “Doris Day” Gray (1958-2005)
David Koresh (1959-1993)
Anthony Sowell (1959-2021)
Richard Ramirez (1960-2013)
Jeffrey Dahmer (1960-1994)
Robert Kajuga (1960-2007)
Yolanda Saldivar (b 1960)
Diego Maradona (1960-2020)
John Allen “D.C. Sniper” Mohammed (1960-2009)


Boomer/Gen X (and foreign peers)

Ramon Salcid (b 1961)
“Vissarion” (b 1961)
Armin Meywes (b 1961)
Ghislaine Maxwell (b 1961)
Mary Kay Letourneau (1962-2020)
Cesar Sayoc (b 1962)
Brenda Spencer (b 1962)
Jhon Jario Velásquez Vásquez (1962-2020)
Peter Scully (b 1963)
Johnny Adair (b 1963)
“Fat” Jackie Thompson (b 1963)
Marc Lepine (1964-1989)


Generation X (and foreign peers)

Bill Andriette (b 1965)
William Fleming (1965-1984)
Bashar Hafez al-Assad (b 1965)
Mike Tyson (b 1966)
Malik Zulu Shabbaz (b 1966)
R. Kelly (b 1967)
Ricky Kasso (1967-1984)
Martin Bryant (b 1967)
Klas Lund (b 1968)
Timothy McVeigh (1968-2001)
Mohammed Atta (1968-2001)
Oystein “Euronymous” Aarseth (b 1968)
Adam Walker (b 1969)
Paul Nehlen (b 1969)
Christopher Scarver (b 1969)
Andrew Cunanan (1969-1997)
Robert “Darken” Fudali (b 1969)
Yvonne Felarca (b 1969 or 1970)
Karla Homolka (b 1970)
Tonya Harding (b 1970)
Quannel X (b 1970)
Matthew Hale (b 1971)
Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (1971-2019)
Wade Michael Page (1971-2012)
Marthijin Uittenbogaard (b 1972)
Hani Hanjour (1972-2001)
Clarisa Figueroa (b 1972 or 1973)
Chevie Kehoe (b 1973)
Daniel Lewis Lee (1973-2020)
Kristian "Varg" Vikernes (b 1973)
Wail al-Shehri (1973-2001)
Alex Jones (b 1974)
Yevhen Hapon (b 1974)
Orlando Anderson (1974-1998)
Ricardo Lopez (1975-1996)
Ziad Jarrah (1975-2001)
Khalid al-Mihdhar (1975-2001)
Jason Vukovich (b 1975)
Hendrik Mobus (b 1976)
Jeffery “Ja Rule” Atkins (b 1976)
Derek Chauvin (b 1976)
Satam al-Suqami (1976-2001)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (1976-2001)
Christine Moody (b 1976 or 1977)
Fayez Banihammad (1977-2001)
Michael “Mike Echols” Peinovich Jr. (b 1977)
Majed Moqed (1977-2001)
Pamela Rogers Turner (b 1977)
Ian Watkins (b 1977)
Ahmed al-Nami (1977-2001)
Jared Fogle (b 1977)
Rachel Dolezal (b 1977)
Georgios Germenis (b 1977)
Kenneth Petty (b 1978)
Marwan al-Shehhi (1978-2001)
Richard Spencer (b 1978)
Norbert de Jonge (b 1978)
Haakon Forwald (b 1978)
Lacy MacAuley (b 1978)
Eivind Berge (b 1978)
Scott Paul Beierle (1978-2018)
Waleed al-Shehri (1978-2001)
Piotr Bobak (b 1978 or 1979)
Anders Breivik (b 1979)
Lana Lokteff (b 1979)
Nasim Najafi Aghdam (1979-2018)
Mohand al-Shehri (1979-2001)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (1979-2001)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (1979-2001)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (1979-2001)
Linda Sarsour (b 1980)
José “El Chino Ántrax” Gamboa (1980-2020)
Lindsey Shookus (b 1980)
Steven Kazmierczak (1980-2008)
Debra Lafave (b 1980)
Nathan Larson (b 1980)
Mark Collett (b 1980)
Ahmed al-Haznawi (1980-2001)
Hazma al-Ghamdi (1980-2001)
Carl Herold (1980-2014 or 1981-2014)
Salem al-Hazmi (1981-2001)
Barry Loukaitis (b 1981)
Julius Malema (b 1981)
Eric Harris (1981-1999)
Dylan Klebold (1981-1999)
“Notbrainwashed” “LandOfTheUnfree” (b 1981)


Millennials (and foreign peers)

Paul Goulding (b 1982)
Ludovic “Famine” Van Alst (b 1982)
Luka Magnotta (b 1982)
Jon Venables (b 1982)
Robert Thompson (b 1982)
Kip Kinkel (b 1982)
Tommy Robinson (b 1982)
Michael “DaddyOFive” Martin (b 1982)
Kim Jong-Un (b 1982, 1983 or 1984)
Jeremy Moody (b 1982 or 1983)
Jeremy Steinke (b 1983)
Anita Sarkeesian (b 1983)
Austin Gillespie (b 1983)
Heather “MommyOFive” Martin (b 1983)
Jason Kessler (b 1983)
Seung Hui-Cho (1984-2007)
Patrick Little (b 1984)
Ross Ulbricbht (b 1984)
Alexei Levkin (b 1984)
“Lynn Ann” (b 1984)
Marcello “Psyclon” Mello (b 1985)
“Weev” (b 1985)
“Onision” (b 1985)
Richard Huckle (1986-2019)
Nathan Damigo (b 1986)
Jayda Fransen (b 1986)
Nikko Jenkins (b 1986)
Tamerlan Tsarnaev (1986-2013)
Omar Mateen (1986-2016)
Abdelhamid Abaaoud (1987-2015)
Alvaro Castillo (b 1987)
Colin Kaepernick (b 1987)
Jared Lee Loughner (b 1988)
Patrick Casey (b 1988 or 1989)
Martin Sellner (b 1989)
Chérif Chekatt (1989-2018)
Travis Reinking (b 1989)
Faith Goldy (b 1989)
Cheyanne Jessie (b 1989)
Christopher Harper Mercer (1989-2015)
Aaron Hernandez (1989-2017)
Blair Cottrell (b 1989)
Ian David Long (1990-2018)
Inna Shevchenko (b 1990)
Andres Barbosa (b 1990)
Brenton Tarrant (b 1990)
Seandell Jackson (b 1990 or 1991)
Brittany Zamora (b 1991)
Devin Patrick Kelly (1991-2017)
Elliot Rodger (1991-2014)
Matthew Heimbach (b 1991)
Elliot “Eli Mosley” Kline (b 1991)
Billy McFarland (b 1991)
Adam Lanza (1992-2012)
Randy Stair (1992-2017)
Austin Jones (b 1992)
Josh Mascharka (b 1993)
Asa H Coon (1993-2007)
Jasmine Richardson (b 1993)
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (b 1993)
Savannah Brockhill (b 1993)
“MAPCrusader” “Indian Boy Lover” “AyaanZ” (b 1993 or 1994)
Dylann Roof (b 1994)
TJ Lane (b 1994)
Connor Betts (1994-2019)
Salman Abedi (1994-2017)
Thomas Durpe (b 1994 or 1995)
Desiree Figueroa (b 1994 or 1995)
Zak “pablosunny” Haddad (b 1995)
Joshua Ryne Goldberg (b 1995)
Nelson Maatman (b 1995 or 1996)
Louise Porton (b 1995 or 1996)
Daniel “6ix9ine” Hernandez (b 1996)
Michael Steven Stanford (b 1996)
Peter Cvjetanovic (b 1996)


Millennial (S&H)/“Gen Z” (Pew) (and foreign peers)

James Alex Fields (b 1997)
Veronica “Evalion” Bouchard (b 1997)
Brandon Theesfeld (b 1997)
Alexander Whipple (b 1997)
Thomas Rousseau (b 1998)
Patrick Crusius (b 1998)
Dayton Kingery (b 1998)
Nick Fuentes (b 1998)
Nikolas Cruz (b 1998)
Amos Yee (b 1998)
Shelby Shoup (b 1998)
Jaylen Fryberg (b 1999)
YNW Melly (b 1999)
John Timothy Earnest (b 1999)
Trippie Redd (b 1999)
Kyle Anger (b 1999)
Brook Higgins (b 1999)
“Dan from Long Island” (b 1999)
Sienna Johnson (b 1999)
Vladislav Roslyakov (1999-2018 or 2000-2018)
Kam McLed (2000-2019)
Tay K (b 2000)
Lee Elder Finnegan (b 2000)
Gabriel Christian Natale Hjorth (b 2000)
Bryer Schmegelsky (2000-2019)
Dimitrios Pagourtzis (b 2000)
Sol Pais (2001-2019)
Jo Ann Butler (b 2001)
Frankie Smith (b 2001)
Anissa Weier (b 2001)
“Freetheteens69” “Holocaust22” (b 2001 or 2002)
Morgan Geyser (b 2002)
Jesse Osbourne (b 2002)
Kyle Rittenhouse (b 2003)
“PedophobeHater” “Holocaust060303” (b 2003)
Alec McKinney (b 2003)
Matias “Peluchin Entertainment” Oyazro (b 2003)
“Cranium 99” “Shotacon745” (b 2003)
“Brazilian Spider-Man” (b 2003 or 2004)
Andrew Valasco (b 2004?)


Homelanders (and foreign peers)

“Boy B” (Murderer of Ana Kreigel) (b 2004 or 2005)
“Boy A” (Murderer of Ana Kreigel) (b 2004 or 2005)
“Joseph” (From Freespeechtube) (b 2004 or 2005)
Preston McDuffie (b 2005)
“AlexJasonWalker” “YouthRightsActivist” “sonicbro2000” (b allegedly 2006)
Ethan Crumbley (b 2006)
Kaia James (b 2006)
Claire Miller (b 2007)
“OmegaKitten” (b allegedly 2011)

Not that I admire them or anything, but many (not all) of the guys in your list from Gen X and later are/were not really relevant people. Like most people will not know what you are talking about if you brought up who Rob Darken is. This was one reason why I made a revised list - there were too many irrelevant and/or simply controversial people and people that did not leave a "scar" on American/world history. Rob Darken has questionable beliefs, but he did not leave a scar on Polish (and especially world) history and he isn't even that well known to begin with.

Trippie Redd, Yevhen Hapon, and Famine, like Rob Darken, are nothing more than controversial musicians.

The only musician I can really see on that list is Varg Vikernes, since he has actually done heinous acts and is somewhat notorious because of them (and I would even say adding him is stretching it a little).

Lindsay Shookus and Kaia James shouldn't be on the list at all. The former is just a controversial celebrity living her life while the latter is a girl who just wanted to express her support for Hillary's campaign in 2016.

[Eric the Green]

(12-31-2021, 11:43 AM)Ghost Wrote: Not that I admire them or anything, but many (not all) of the guys in your list from Gen X and later are/were not really relevant people. Like most people will not know what you are talking about if you brought up who Rob Darken is. This was one reason why I made a revised list - there were too many irrelevant and/or simply controversial people and people that did not leave a "scar" on American/world history. Rob Darken has questionable beliefs, but he did not leave a scar on Polish (and especially world) history and he isn't even that well known to begin with.

Trippie Redd, Yevhen Hapon, and Famine, like Rob Darken, are nothing more than controversial musicians.

The only musician I can really see on that list is Varg Vikernes, since he has actually done heinous acts and is somewhat notorious because of them (and I would even say adding him is stretching it a little).

Lindsay Shookus and Kaia James shouldn't be on the list at all. The former is just a controversial celebrity living her life while the latter is a girl who just wanted to express her support for Hillary's campaign in 2016.

I agree. Thanks for making your revised list.
I see Roger Stone and Alex Jones on Phantom's list now. I don't know if he added them or if I missed seeing them there before.

[pbrower2a]

Frank and Jesse James, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, and Philippe Petain could be bad guys of the Progressive generation. The Gilded have Nathan Bedford Forrest, William Quantrill, Champ Ferguson, and Leopold II of Belgium (for what he did to the Congo). Military incompetence can get multitudes killed, so does George Armstrong Custer qualify?

I was looking to see whether Indian-killer John Chivington fit the list of Gilded rogues for the Sand Creek massacre that he commanded. It turns out that this nineteenth-century analogue to My Lai (William Calley belongs on the rogue list for that) was born in 1821, so he is Transcendental.

Should Donald Trump be convicted of any crime, he goes here. He is a prime example of someone who should never have an opportunity to lead anything.

This list has plenty of Nazis and Stalinists... OK, at one point I was in a knock-down, drag-out flame war with a Nazi fan-boy who denied the Holocaust and accused me of being a vindictive, deceitful Jew who sought unjustifiable revenge against "innocent" Nazis. The more that I saw him smear Jews and that I checked out Jewish reality against what he said of Jews, the more attractive Judaism became to me. In one retort to him I made an allusion to Dante's Inferno and recognized that had Dante come back to life to write a sequel he would need a very nasty bolgia just to hold some of the most egregious sinners of all time: Nazis and Stalinists. There were no equivalents of their evil in Dante's time -- not even Genghis Khan or Timur Lenk. In more recent times I would have to add Ba'athists, ISIS, and perpetrators of the Rwanda genocide  

Please add Jean Kabanda (1955-), President of Rwanda at the time, and Froduald Karamira (1947-1998), organizer of genocidal militias and disseminator of hateful anti-Tutsi propaganda during the genocide to the list of really-bad guys. Slobodan Milosevic inexplicably missed the cut, and so did  Željko Ražnatović, (1952-2000) better known as "General Arkan", a gangster who eventually became the head of a paramilitary unit known as Arkan's Tigers that served Bosnian Serb interests against Bosnian Muslims. 

I have suggested two major Japanese war criminals, but I was looking for someone who did great horror through his crimes. General Masaharu Homma (1887-1946) gets culpability for the unforgivable Bataan Death March and being the first Governor-General of the Japanese-occupied Philippines and establishing the brutal rule of a colony. Crimes such as his made it far easier for the United States to use the atom bomb upon Hiroshima and Nagasaki. To be sure, the Japanese wartime leadership could have surrendered earlier (like soon after the Nazi surrender) and spared themselves such a horror, but Homma did much to demonize the Japanese people in the American mind.   

Surprisingly missing are the gangsters of the Italian Mafia and its American offshoot. It's hard to figure who the worst was. One multi-ethnic gang was "Murder, Incorporated", whose leader was Lepke Buchalter (1898-1944), executed for his murder of an informant. Travesties of justice, whether those of "hanging judges" like  Andrei Vishinsky or Roland Freisler, law enforcement who betray innocent people to killers (Cecil Price), a killer of a judge known for rigid enforcement of laws (Charles Harrelson), or of gangsters killing informants (for which Buchalter and some of his associates were justly electrocuted) are extreme offenders in my "book of evildoers". There is not and has never been a real leader of any whole Sicilian-American or Jewish-American Mafia, and it is generally difficult to distinguish one "crime boss" from another.  I did have Semion Mogilevich, who apparently is a real leader of the Russian Mafia and as such he goes onto my "extreme rogue" list. This said, Salvatore Riina (1930-2017), a Sicilian crime boss, was responsible for multiple murders under his command of judges and informants, rival crime bosses, and other "collateral damage" through shootings and bombings.

[pbrower2a]

I forgot to mention spies and other committers of treachery starting with Mata Hari, and going through the Rosenberg-Greenglass spy ring, the "Cambridge Five" (Kim Philby, Anthony Blunt, Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, and John Cairncross, and others such as Gunther Guillaume, John Walker, Aldrich Ames, and Andrew Hanssen.

[pbrower2a]

It looks as if we have a list of

1. brutal or tyrannical leaders and their partners in crime
2. committers of massacres at any scale
3. racists and religious bigots
4. perverters of justice
5. mobsters
6. terrorists
7. serial, mass, and spree killers
8. corrupt political and commercial leaders
9. rapists and child molesters
10. traitors (at least to benign regimes). I doubt that anyone is going to mention the Stauffenberg clique that, had it been successful in overthrowing Satan Incarnate, would have shortened the Second World War and the Holocaust.

We have plenty of characters, some quite colorfully evil (like Oskar Dirlewanger) to overpopulate a sequel of Dante's Inferno. We have a wide variety of offenders by ethnicity and religious heritage.

I can think of what would happen to Arnold Rothstein and Chick Gandil (Black Sox Scandal) in a Inferno under the inspiration of Dante Aligheri: they would forever be clubbed by baseball bats and hit by baseball pitches. OK, baseball came into existence long after Dante was gone. Cecil Price and Alton Coleman might take turns lynching each other.

Missing so far are some "snakes under the cloth" who have fleeced believers to fuel their ostentatious lives People like Jimmy Swaggart have their defenders.

[JasonBlack]

Are millennials really that boring where all of our bad apples are just school shooters? Come on man. No high profile criminals? drug lords? pimps? arms dealers? military officers? Are we that bloody boring when it comes to crime?  
PS: bro, there isn't a single laugh emote on this entire forum. we need to fix that lol

[pbrower2a]

One of the rogues on this list, Nikolas Cruz (Parkland shooter) pled guilty to mass murder and has received life without parole.

I saw a report of the sentencing phase, and he had plenty of aggravating factors (especially a high level of premeditation). He still had to undergo the assessment of such factors, and he may have saved himself a death sentence by pleading guilty.

.... we can add some nasty people from the plot to assassinate Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan and of course the Capitol Putsch, but so far none of those are there. No names should be added until we have a conviction (unless you are to add Ashli Bobbitt).

[Ghost]

(10-13-2022, 12:02 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: One of the rogues on this list, Nikolas Cruz (Parkland shooter) pled guilty to mass murder and has received life without parole.

I saw a report of the sentencing phase, and he had plenty of aggravating factors (especially a high level of premeditation). He still had to undergo the assessment of such factors, and he may have saved himself a death sentence by pleading guilty.

.... we can add some nasty people from the plot to assassinate Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan and of course the Capitol Putsch, but so far none of those are there. No names should be added until we have a conviction (unless you are to add Ashli Bobbitt).

I should have added those people. Thanks for the additions.

[Eric the Green]

If people vote Republican this November, as now seems likely, then the American people as a whole are a bunch of bad apples of the worst possible kind.

[nguyenivy]

(03-15-2022, 09:29 AM)JasonBlack Wrote: Are millennials really that boring where all of our bad apples are just school shooters? Come on man. No high profile criminals? drug lords? pimps? arms dealers? military officers? Are we that bloody boring when it comes to crime?  
PS: bro, there isn't a single laugh emote on this entire forum. we need to fix that lol

I think we're just too young to have those kind of bad apples in our generation. Remember, the Boomers/Silents are holding onto political/government power for as long as possible (oldest US President ever, others in federal government well into their 60s/70s or beyond) this time around, so maybe that is having an effect. Big fat question mark on what happens once the Silents & Boomers really can't lead anymore & the baton is forced to pass to Xers & Millennials whether we want to lead or not. How do generations who never were taught how to effectively lead fare when forced into that position?

[pbrower2a]

The Millennial Generation has yet to have the Baddie types of the GI Generation -- Vorster, Honecker, Ceausescu, Zhivkov, "Papa Doc" Duvalier, Pinochet, Bokassa I, Ne Win. OK, Kim Jong-Un is an early-bloomer at tyranny. Some early-wave Silent (Castro, Pol Pot, Amin, Videla) have been really nasty for repression and/or mass murder.

[JasonBlack]

Welp, millennials now have
1) Elizabeth Holmes: illegal wire transfers and conspiracy to commit fraud
2) Andrew Tate: pimping, (alleged) rape, (alleged) sex trafficking

It looks like we are going to get some interesting villains, if belatedly.

[pbrower2a]

Got a colorful local villain here:


Sile Doty (August 30, 1800 – March 12, 1876) was an infamous robber, burglar, horse thief, highwayman, counterfeiter, and criminal gang leader. Stewart Holbrook says that Doty "was, before the James-Younger era, the most energetic and notorious all-around bandit in the United States."[1] Doty's criminal career is known primarily through his autobiography, compiled by J. G. W. Colburn and published four years after Doty's death as The Life of Sile Doty The Most Noted Thief and Daring Burglar of His Time. [2] As this title suggests, the tone of the autobiography is boastful and unapologetic. Doty excuses his crimes as stealing from the rich to give to the poor. Except where otherwise noted, what follows is taken from the autobiography and may contain exaggerations and self-serving distortions.

Doty was born Silas Doty in St. Albans, Vermont. His parents were David Doty (1778–1855) and Martha Wilson (1781–1875). Silas was a fourth great grandson of Mayflower passenger Edward Doty (c. 1599–1655) and Faith Clarke (1619–1675).[3] As a child, he stole toys from his siblings, a pen knife from his teacher, and a horseshoe from a blacksmith, not because he needed or wanted these things, but for the excitement and pleasure he took from evading detection. When Doty was about nine years old, his family moved west to Bangor, New York, a fur trapping region, where he began a lucrative three-year career of stealing animals from traps and selling their furs. Circa 1815, Doty joined a band of thieves and counterfeiters operating in the Bangor area. In a few years, Doty became the leader of this gang, whose depredations now extended throughout New England and the Mid-Atlantic states.
In the winter of 1818, Doty learned blacksmithing and used his new skills to outfit himself with a complete set of skeleton keys and burglary tools. Throughout his criminal career, Doty specialized in making such tools and employing them with great stealth and skill. Doty typically employed disguises, false identities, misdirection, and other nonviolent means, but when directly challenged he would resort to brass knuckles or whatever was at hand. Doty learned to pass counterfeit money from Ed Cooper, a resident of New York City, who would wholesale such money to him for 30 cents on the dollar.

Doty typically entered a town with one or more associates, who would pretend not to know Doty in order to gather intelligence about whether he had been detected—and if so, what actions were being taken to pursue him. If he had counterfeit money, Doty would go on a spending spree, all the while scouting out where stores kept their money. If a tempting prize was guarded by a watch dog, Doty would feed it poisoned meat. At night he and his associates would break into homes, places of business, and stables using skeleton keys and relocking doors after leaving. He would deposit his loot with a confederate. By the time Doty was ready to leave town, he would have scouted out a fast horse to steal, in order to make his getaway. A favorite tactic was to have an associate show up at the location of the horse to be stolen with a legitimately rented horse. Doty would steal both the horse and a sulky, wagon, or other rig, which would be attached to the legitimate horse and driven by the associate in the opposite direction from that taken by Doty and the stolen horse. Several miles out of town, the stolen rig would be abandoned and the legitimate horse returned to its owner. It never failed that when the theft was detected, the aroused citizens would pursue the tracks of the stolen rig.
Each year, Doty would go on a campaign of crime through the towns and cities of New York State and New England. He was part of an extensive network of criminals with whom he cooperated and to whom he could sell his stolen goods. During the summer of 1822, Doty learned sailing by working on a boat traveling up and down the Saint Lawrence River, and in the process managed to fill a trunk with pilfered valuables. In the fall, Doty made use of his new sailing skills by stealing a pleasure boat in Kingston, Ontario, loading it with stolen property, and sailing it down the Saint Lawrence to a place near Ogdensburg, New York, where he unloaded the boat and sank it.

In the spring of 1823, finding himself hotly pursued by his victims from throughout the northeastern United States, Doty decided to ship out for Quebec City, from which he took passage first to Halifax, thence to Liverpool, England. Doty soon found a thriving underworld in Liverpool, from which he selected four rogues for his English gang. After engaging in some thievery in Liverpool, the gang took a ship to the north of England near the Scottish border where they stole nine horses. After a five-day ride, the gang reached London, where they sold the stolen horses. Doty spent the winter of 1823–1824 committing burglaries in London. In the spring, he was forced to flee London on foot, one step ahead of the law. Having walked all the way to Liverpool, he booked passage to New York City under an alias.

Doty spent the winter of 1824–1825 at his father's home in Bangor, New York, perfecting his metalworking skills and courting Sophia Adams, whom he married in the spring of 1825.[4] Doty tried to lead a settled life of farming, but he could never resist the temptation to go on another campaign of thievery. Finally by 1834, Doty was wanted for crimes throughout the northeast and his evil reputation had followed him home to Bangor, so he moved with his wife to Adrian, Michigan, and shifted his criminal operations to Michigan, Indiana, Ohio and Illinois.[5] In 1838, Doty extended one of his campaigns into Kentucky, where he helped a slave to escape and cross the Ohio River to the free state of Ohio. Doty was motivated less by abolitionist sentiment than by the challenge of stealing a slave.
In 1839, Doty moved to Steuben County, Indiana where he hired Lorenzo G. Noyes to work for him as a farm hand. When Noyes learned of Doty's criminal activities he threatened to go to the authorities, whereupon Doty struck him with a hickory walking stick, killing him. Doty hid the body in a swamp. In 1841, Doty was arrested for stealing a span of matched bays and confined to the jail in Huntersville, Virginia, now in West Virginia, but an accomplice smuggled him a saw and auger, which he used to saw through the log structure and make his escape. He made his way to the notorious Tamarack House near Rome, Indiana, the hangout of outlaws from throughout the Midwest. Sile Doty, most likely, knew of and had connections with the Banditti of the Prairie in Illinois. The following winter Doty was arrested in Michigan for stealing a large number of buffalo robes and several sets of harness and sent to the penitentiary for two years. In June 1842, a body said to be that of Lorenzo Noyes was discovered, and as a result Doty was removed to the jail in Angola, Indiana to stand trial for Noyes' murder. In 1844, Doty was convicted of murder in the second degree and sentenced to life in prison.[6]

In the fall of 1845, the Indiana Supreme Court granted Doty a new trial, and he was returned to the Angola jail to await the retrial. In the spring of 1846, he escaped by cutting a hole through the jail floor and got as far as Logansport, Indiana before being identified and returned to jail. Using two knives hidden in his belt, Doty broke out of jail once more and headed for the Mexican–American War, reaching General Zachary Taylor's army at Camargo about September first. Congress had passed a law forgiving all past offenses of those who enlisted for the duration of the war, so Doty sent letters to his home saying that he had enlisted until the end of the war, although he had done no such thing.
After Monterrey fell to the Americans Doty joined other scoundrels in a binge of looting and murder. About December 1846, Doty stole the best horse he could find in General Taylor's camp at Monterrey and rode it to General Winfield Scott's camp at Camargo, where he won General Scott's good will by presenting him with the stolen horse. Scott employed Doty to take care of the horse and used him as a messenger during the Battle of Veracruz. Doty followed the American army all the way to Mexico City, disguising himself as a Mexican at night in order to waylay and rob Mexican citizens, selling the plundered goods to soldiers in the American army.

In the fall of 1847, Doty returned to his home in Steuben County, Indiana and continued his depredations on the citizens of northern Indiana and southern Michigan, having convinced his neighbors that he had been granted amnesty because of his participation in the Mexican-American War. In August 1849, Doty was arrested for robbing a peddler, and spent several months in jail in Hillsdale, Michigan before being bailed out. Doty was able to get his trial postponed repeatedly, during which time he stepped up his criminal activity stealing more property, he claimed, than at any other time in his career. When he finally came to trial in the spring of 1851, Doty was found guilty and sentenced to 17 years in the State Prison of Southern Michigan. Even though Doty could not resist stealing small items like horseshoes, he was trusted by his jailors to work alone outdoors at various farm chores, and he was released two years early for good behavior on September 1, 1866. The following summer, Doty stole a horse from a lawyer who, he thought, had wronged him years before. He was apprehended at a livery near the old Yates House hotel in Bryan, Ohio, and returned to prison for four years.[7] Upon release, Doty immediately returned to his life of crime, and was again convicted of theft and returned to prison for another two years. Despite being in his seventies by the time he completed this sentence, Doty continued his criminal career until his death at the home of his son in Reading, Michigan.[3]



Sile Doty appears as a character, played by Robert Wilke, in the 1956 film Raw Edge.[8] A small cave in Hillsdale County, Michigan in the Lost Nations Game Area is named for him, and it is said to be where he held stolen horses.

Silas Doty. 1800-1876