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Separation of illegal-alien children from parents
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(06-20-2018, 12:18 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: It's always been quite standard for the justice system to separate detained criminal suspects from their children.  Why do we suddenly care when the suspects are illegal aliens, when we've never cared when the suspects are US citizens?

I guess illegal immigrants and financial/political  contributions from groups associated with it are more important to liberals than American minorities and other American groups of people whom they still claim to represent.
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(08-12-2018, 08:21 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 12:18 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: It's always been quite standard for the justice system to separate detained criminal suspects from their children.  Why do we suddenly care when the suspects are illegal aliens, when we've never cared when the suspects are US citizens?

I guess illegal immigrants and financial/political  contributions from groups associated with it are more important to liberals than American minorities and other American groups of people whom they still claim to represent.

Let's suppose that the local police bust some couple who have an active meth lab and a child. Beyond any question it is right to separate the child from the meth-cookers. The meth lab is itself dangerous and drug activity of any kind is poor influence on children. Usually the child can be placed with reliable people -- perhaps grandchildren -- while the horrid parents are processed through the legal system. "Clear and present danger" is obvious enough.

Now what does that have to do with illegal immigration other than that a statute is violated?

There is no big money behind protecting illegal immigration as there is for pushing guns or destroying labor unions.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(08-12-2018, 08:21 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 12:18 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: It's always been quite standard for the justice system to separate detained criminal suspects from their children.  Why do we suddenly care when the suspects are illegal aliens, when we've never cared when the suspects are US citizens?

I guess illegal immigrants and financial/political  contributions from groups associated with it are more important to liberals than American minorities and other American groups of people whom they still claim to represent.

Two comments here:
  • Many of the detainees who were separated from their children, legally entered as refugee candidates -- a worldwide protected class.  Not only were they detained and had their children removed, they were extorted into waiving their refugee status as a condition of ever seeing them again.
  • In Canada, they are actively seeking immigrants to areas that are declining in population.  The program has successfully reinvigorated the Maritimes, especially P.E.I.  Similar areas in the US are rejecting immigrants, and are seeing their populations tank, and their economies with them.
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(08-12-2018, 11:08 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(08-12-2018, 08:21 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 12:18 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: It's always been quite standard for the justice system to separate detained criminal suspects from their children.  Why do we suddenly care when the suspects are illegal aliens, when we've never cared when the suspects are US citizens?

I guess illegal immigrants and financial/political  contributions from groups associated with it are more important to liberals than American minorities and other American groups of people whom they still claim to represent.

Let's suppose that the local police bust some couple who have an active meth lab and a child. Beyond any question it is right to separate the child from the meth-cookers. The meth lab is itself dangerous and drug activity of any kind is poor influence on children. Usually the child can be placed with reliable people -- perhaps grandchildren -- while the horrid parents are processed through the legal system. "Clear and present danger" is obvious enough.

Now what does that have to do with illegal immigration other than that a statute is violated?

There is no big money behind protecting illegal immigration as there is for pushing guns or destroying labor unions.

There is big money that supports the importation of illegal aliens. Big Meat and big Veggies just love cheap imported labor. Also, illegal entry into the US is a violation of immigration statutes. As for domestic child separation, folks who can't post bail have their children ripped from them. I with all those wahoo oh, but the children would focus on domestic folks instead of illegal aliens. USA, the land of the stupids.
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