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Why are so many Millennials tattooed?
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So I had a conversation with my friend about tattoos and why they are so popular with Millennials that went something like this. It started with me explaining:

"You see, they were a Pacific islander custom which Europeans encountered in the Age of Discovery. This is why tattoos are associated with sailors. They then became a custom among Europeans of the lower orders, and were for a long time in the West associated with lack of respectability and the criminal underclass.

Then, in the aftermath of the Sixties at the end of the twentieth century, young people sought to break free of cultural norms. Getting tattooed and/or pierced was a rebellious act of individualism practiced by a minority of youth. By the turn of the century it was a fad. And now, it has become a conventional rite of youth passage. Which is why you see almost every young adult with at least some tattoos."

To which she replied, "Have you even talked with anyone who has tattoos and asked them why they have them?" I had to admit that I really had not. "It's because they feel like it's the only way in which they can truly express themselves," she continued.

"You mean that their personal bodies is the only space over which they have any control?" I'm thinking how the young generation must feel powerless in a world politically and culturally dominated by their elders.

"Yes."

So that's two different perspectives on the frequently tattooed Millennial generation. What do you think?
Steve Barrera

[A]lthough one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation. - Hagakure

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(07-11-2018, 07:01 PM)sbarrera Wrote: So I had a conversation with my friend about tattoos and why they are so popular with Millennials that went something like this. It started with me explaining:

"You see, they were a Pacific islander custom which Europeans encountered in the Age of Discovery. This is why tattoos are associated with sailors. They then became a custom among Europeans of the lower orders, and were for a long time in the West associated with lack of respectability and the criminal underclass.

Then, in the aftermath of the Sixties at the end of the twentieth century, young people sought to break free of cultural norms. Getting tattooed and/or pierced was a rebellious act of individualism practiced by a minority of youth. By the turn of the century it was a fad. And now, it has become a conventional rite of youth passage. Which is why you see almost every young adult with at least some tattoos."

To which she replied, "Have you even talked with anyone who has tattoos and asked them why they have them?" I had to admit that I really had not. "It's because they feel like it's the only way in which they can truly express themselves," she continued.

"You mean that their personal bodies is the only space over which they have any control?" I'm thinking how the young generation must feel powerless in a world politically and culturally dominated by their elders.

"Yes."

So that's two different perspectives on the frequently tattooed Millennial generation. What do you think?

They copycat Xer's.  Tattoos, backwards ball caps, and piercings are Xer things.
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(07-11-2018, 11:25 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(07-11-2018, 07:01 PM)sbarrera Wrote: So I had a conversation with my friend about tattoos and why they are so popular with Millennials that went something like this. It started with me explaining:

"You see, they were a Pacific islander custom which Europeans encountered in the Age of Discovery. This is why tattoos are associated with sailors. They then became a custom among Europeans of the lower orders, and were for a long time in the West associated with lack of respectability and the criminal underclass.

Then, in the aftermath of the Sixties at the end of the twentieth century, young people sought to break free of cultural norms. Getting tattooed and/or pierced was a rebellious act of individualism practiced by a minority of youth. By the turn of the century it was a fad. And now, it has become a conventional rite of youth passage. Which is why you see almost every young adult with at least some tattoos."

To which she replied, "Have you even talked with anyone who has tattoos and asked them why they have them?" I had to admit that I really had not. "It's because they feel like it's the only way in which they can truly express themselves," she continued.

"You mean that their personal bodies is the only space over which they have any control?" I'm thinking how the young generation must feel powerless in a world politically and culturally dominated by their elders.

"Yes."

So that's two different perspectives on the frequently tattooed Millennial generation. What do you think?

They copycat Xer's.  Tattoos, backwards ball caps, and piercings are Xer things.

But I really think a higher percentage of Millennials are tattooed than Xers (based on personal observation, I have no data). So it has been mainstreamed.
Steve Barrera

[A]lthough one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation. - Hagakure

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#4
Two words: Prole drift.
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#5
(07-16-2018, 11:30 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: Two words: Prole drift.

[Speaking of recycled X'er stuff]


https://news.yahoo.com/maroon-5-super-bo...33185.html
https://news.yahoo.com/adam-levine-super...25572.html


Close enough. Big Grin    All Maroon 5 needs to do is ditch their recycled music and just play covers for  Mötley Crüe, Anthrax, Type O Negative, Black and Blue, etc. So... they have the right looks, they just need the right jams and they're all set to go. Cool
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#6
Do-it-yourself advertising. Affiliations?
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#7
As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.
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(02-04-2019, 10:44 PM)taramarie Wrote: As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.

Love and meaningful stories matter to ALL generations.

So why have millennials mainstreamed tattoos? It's usually Nomadic generations' job to be fascinated by the forbidden. But maybe it's Xers who mainstreamed it, while millennials were the first to come of age in a culture that doesn't view a person with a tattoo as a criminal.
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#9
I'd rather have a photo album. It might well outlast the one who takes the photos -- and the items whose images are taken.
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(02-05-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 10:44 PM)taramarie Wrote: As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.

Love and meaningful stories matter to ALL generations.

So why have millennials mainstreamed tattoos? It's usually Nomadic generations' job to be fascinated by the forbidden. But maybe it's Xers who mainstreamed it, while millennials were the first to come of age in a culture that doesn't view a person with a tattoo as a criminal.

Well of course all generations have them for that reason. We are not so special with this in any way. Why exclude us as if we are different? We feel it is ridiculous to be superficial about a person who chooses to express themselves. Remember we were taught to be inclusive.
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(02-05-2019, 06:41 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 10:44 PM)taramarie Wrote: As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.

Love and meaningful stories matter to ALL generations.

So why have millennials mainstreamed tattoos? It's usually Nomadic generations' job to be fascinated by the forbidden. But maybe it's Xers who mainstreamed it, while millennials were the first to come of age in a culture that doesn't view a person with a tattoo as a criminal.

Well of course all generations have them for that reason. We are not so special with this in any way. Why exclude us as if we are different? We feel it is ridiculous to be superficial about a person who chooses to express themselves. Remember we were taught to be inclusive.

OK, then.  So what's up with the donning of backwards ballcaps?  Those are an Xer innovation. Btw. I don't mind the tats, Maroon 5 could be truly awesome if they covered some of my favorite Xer bands Cool  They have the glam, just need the right sound for a 1980's redux!

Do this Maroon 5! Just do it!  <- Registered trade mark of genX.







Yehaawwwww!  Now that would be an awesome Stupor bowl half time show. Cool
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(02-05-2019, 10:42 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 06:41 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 10:44 PM)taramarie Wrote: As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.

Love and meaningful stories matter to ALL generations.

So why have millennials mainstreamed tattoos? It's usually Nomadic generations' job to be fascinated by the forbidden. But maybe it's Xers who mainstreamed it, while millennials were the first to come of age in a culture that doesn't view a person with a tattoo as a criminal.

Well of course all generations have them for that reason. We are not so special with this in any way. Why exclude us as if we are different? We feel it is ridiculous to be superficial about a person who chooses to express themselves. Remember we were taught to be inclusive.

OK, then.  So what's up with the donning of backwards ballcaps?  Those are an Xer innovation. Btw. I don't mind the tats, Maroon 5 could be truly awesome if they covered some of my favorite Xer bands Cool  They have the glam, just need the right sound for a 1980's redux!

Do this Maroon 5! Just do it!  <- Registered trade mark of genX.







Yehaawwwww!  Now that would be an awesome Stupor bowl half time show. Cool
No idea what you mean regarding putting on hats backwards. It is just an old fashion trend which they are merely copying so they can be accepted by their peers in the group.
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Btw when i say that from what i have experienced around those my age and younger it is more of having something in common which binds you together. For example when we created the SVA here we had matching shirts with the logo on it. It is an outward form of being part of something bigger than yourself but is a part of you also. It is the same thing with the hats. Does not mean it always happens, but it can. I dont see it as any different yet again to any other generation but perhaps i am mistaken.
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(02-05-2019, 11:15 PM)taramarie Wrote: Btw when i say that from what i have experienced around those my age and younger it is more of having something in common which binds you together. For example when we created the SVA here we had matching shirts with the logo on it. It is an outward form of being part of something bigger than yourself but is a part of you also. It is the same thing with the hats. Does not mean it always happens, but it can. I dont see it as any different yet again to any other generation but perhaps i am mistaken.

That's what I said. Backwards ball hats are the same as GenX which is a different generation. And... yes the generations are different:

Boomers = screech owls.
Xer's  = honey badgers
Millies = bees. Tongue
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(02-06-2019, 12:28 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 11:15 PM)taramarie Wrote: Btw when i say that from what i have experienced around those my age and younger it is more of having something in common which binds you together. For example when we created the SVA here we had matching shirts with the logo on it. It is an outward form of being part of something bigger than yourself but is a part of you also. It is the same thing with the hats. Does not mean it always happens, but it can. I dont see it as any different yet again to any other generation but perhaps i am mistaken.

That's what I said. Backwards ball hats are the same as GenX which is a different generation. And... yes the generations are different:

Boomers = screech owls.
Xer's  = honey badgers
Millies = bees. Tongue
So, why bring up the case of the hats? What was the purpose? When we know it really is not any different. Yes, different generation, different era and different thoughts on the way to raise children, but as to thoughts on how to wear hats or tattoos, i see no differences there. I can only speak from my perspective regarding tattoos and it is i saw it as normal self expression. I only heard from older people that it is something that should be hidden as it gives a bad image and found that to be superficial, old fashioned and ridiculous. As for hats, no difference that i can see. Perhaps you can convey what you meant with bringing up the latter topic of interest as i do not see a point here when the topic was about tattoos.
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(02-06-2019, 12:28 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 11:15 PM)taramarie Wrote: Btw when i say that from what i have experienced around those my age and younger it is more of having something in common which binds you together. For example when we created the SVA here we had matching shirts with the logo on it. It is an outward form of being part of something bigger than yourself but is a part of you also. It is the same thing with the hats. Does not mean it always happens, but it can. I dont see it as any different yet again to any other generation but perhaps i am mistaken.

That's what I said. Backwards ball hats are the same as GenX which is a different generation. And... yes the generations are different:

Boomers = screech owls.
Xer's  = honey badgers
Millies = bees. Tongue
I agree with screech owls and honey badgers if we follow the stereotypes. I see myself as not a bee but perhaps something else. I may be a millennial but i am also an isfp 4w5 millennial.
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(02-05-2019, 06:41 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 10:44 PM)taramarie Wrote: As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.

Love and meaningful stories matter to ALL generations.

So why have millennials mainstreamed tattoos? It's usually Nomadic generations' job to be fascinated by the forbidden. But maybe it's Xers who mainstreamed it, while millennials were the first to come of age in a culture that doesn't view a person with a tattoo as a criminal.

Well of course all generations have them for that reason. We are not so special with this in any way. Why exclude us as if we are different? We feel it is ridiculous to be superficial about a person who chooses to express themselves. Remember we were taught to be inclusive.

Because there are more tattoed individuals among Millies than among any other generation?

I wonder what happens to tattoos when the Awakening kicks in?
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(02-06-2019, 06:30 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 06:41 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 09:09 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 10:44 PM)taramarie Wrote: As an actual millennial who has been hired a few times for tattoo designs by fellow millennials I can say the purpose is to tell a meaningful story about their life and their loved ones.

Love and meaningful stories matter to ALL generations.

So why have millennials mainstreamed tattoos? It's usually Nomadic generations' job to be fascinated by the forbidden. But maybe it's Xers who mainstreamed it, while millennials were the first to come of age in a culture that doesn't view a person with a tattoo as a criminal.

Well of course all generations have them for that reason. We are not so special with this in any way. Why exclude us as if we are different? We feel it is ridiculous to be superficial about a person who chooses to express themselves. Remember we were taught to be inclusive.

Because there are more tattoed individuals among Millies than among any other generation?

I wonder what happens to tattoos when the Awakening kicks in?

Maybe because there are more millennials than xers but also it is literally mainstream now. Only some older people have an issue with tattoos now.
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#19
Also, tattoos have changed. Among gangsters, they still may have the old purpose. But young women who get tattoos of Disney characters?
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#20
Maybe they just simply like the character/design/etc. It holds some significance for them and that is reason enough for them to get that whether it is a favourite for them or the character of the desired tattoo has a deeper meaning for them like a part of their personality that they look up to.
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