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Legacy of the 2010s
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(Yesterday, 01:21 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 12:52 AM)taramarie Wrote: Have to say after thinking about it I agree with kinser about legalizing drugs. Once legalized it would take the power out of criminals hands, it could regulate how drugs are produced, the money would go elsewhere....not to criminals or at least not as much and less people in prison for non violent crimes. People will get hold of drugs either way, at least make it so the criminals don't profit and so there are standards put in place for how the drugs are produced and sold. Unless someone has another thought about this of course?

Let me give an example of how legalizing drugs worked in one producing country.  Its name is Turkey and at one time produced nearly all the heroin that the US consumed.  It was able to do this because no other crop paid farmers as much money as the opium poppy did and Turkey is really good at growing opium poppies.  Like Coca in Peru or Bolivia it was litterally grow this crop or not have enough money to live on.

At the time the crop was illegal, and well guess who ran the collection of the illegal crop?  The Italian Mafia which then sold it to their American Cousins.  This is well documented for anyone who wants to check it out.  They either called it the French Connection (as they used Marseilles as a hub, or the Pizza connection because the Italian-American Mafia used pizzerias as their cover businesses for this).

Well to deal with the illicit trade Turkey could go out and harass farmers and arrest people and basically spend tons of cash for no real effect...or it could try something completely radical.  It could legalize growing the poppies, and then offer the production to pharmaceutical companies. 

When Turkey legalized growing the poppies Bayer took over as the main purchaser, offering as much as the mafia did (and often more to compete with them), all completely legal and taxed, and they produced many life saving drugs with it.


Simply put prohibition has never worked, and will never work. The fact that PBR deliberately refuses to see the absolute and utter failure of this policy either indicates insanity or stupidity or both.

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As for the differences between Latin Americans and Anglo Americans it is immaterial.  I don't want ANY foreigners in the US.  I don't care where they come from.

Since being subtle hasn't worked let me try absolute bluntness.

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Totally agree with you about legalization of drugs and a fantastic example.
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#42
(Yesterday, 01:52 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(Yesterday, 01:21 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 12:52 AM)taramarie Wrote: Have to say after thinking about it I agree with kinser about legalizing drugs. Once legalized it would take the power out of criminals hands, it could regulate how drugs are produced, the money would go elsewhere....not to criminals or at least not as much and less people in prison for non violent crimes. People will get hold of drugs either way, at least make it so the criminals don't profit and so there are standards put in place for how the drugs are produced and sold. Unless someone has another thought about this of course?

Let me give an example of how legalizing drugs worked in one producing country.  Its name is Turkey and at one time produced nearly all the heroin that the US consumed.  It was able to do this because no other crop paid farmers as much money as the opium poppy did and Turkey is really good at growing opium poppies.  Like Coca in Peru or Bolivia it was litterally grow this crop or not have enough money to live on.

At the time the crop was illegal, and well guess who ran the collection of the illegal crop?  The Italian Mafia which then sold it to their American Cousins.  This is well documented for anyone who wants to check it out.  They either called it the French Connection (as they used Marseilles as a hub, or the Pizza connection because the Italian-American Mafia used pizzerias as their cover businesses for this).

Well to deal with the illicit trade Turkey could go out and harass farmers and arrest people and basically spend tons of cash for no real effect...or it could try something completely radical.  It could legalize growing the poppies, and then offer the production to pharmaceutical companies. 

When Turkey legalized growing the poppies Bayer took over as the main purchaser, offering as much as the mafia did (and often more to compete with them), all completely legal and taxed, and they produced many life saving drugs with it.


Simply put prohibition has never worked, and will never work. The fact that PBR deliberately refuses to see the absolute and utter failure of this policy either indicates insanity or stupidity or both.

==

As for the differences between Latin Americans and Anglo Americans it is immaterial.  I don't want ANY foreigners in the US.  I don't care where they come from.

Since being subtle hasn't worked let me try absolute bluntness.

[Image: il_570xN.1007169627_800t.jpg]

Totally agree with you about legalization of drugs and a fantastic example.
The same can be said about sex work as well. Don't you think it's time for us to legalize or at least decriminalize that as well for all the same reason? So far their had been very little movement on this issue although it's prohibition hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago
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#43
(Yesterday, 08:16 AM)beechnut79 Wrote: [quote pid='43806' dateline='1558594351']
The same can be said about sex work as well. Don't you think it's time for us to legalize or at least decriminalize that as well for all the same reason? So far their had been very little movement on this issue although it's prohibition hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago

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Personally I favor the Nordic Model as to prostitution.  Where the prostituted themselves is decriminalized and offered services to leave prostitution but the pimps and johns are still subject to criminal prosecution.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/what-is-the-nordic-model/
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#44
(Yesterday, 08:16 AM)beechnut79 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 01:52 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(Yesterday, 01:21 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(Yesterday, 12:52 AM)taramarie Wrote: Have to say after thinking about it I agree with kinser about legalizing drugs. Once legalized it would take the power out of criminals hands, it could regulate how drugs are produced, the money would go elsewhere....not to criminals or at least not as much and less people in prison for non violent crimes. People will get hold of drugs either way, at least make it so the criminals don't profit and so there are standards put in place for how the drugs are produced and sold. Unless someone has another thought about this of course?

Let me give an example of how legalizing drugs worked in one producing country.  Its name is Turkey and at one time produced nearly all the heroin that the US consumed.  It was able to do this because no other crop paid farmers as much money as the opium poppy did and Turkey is really good at growing opium poppies.  Like Coca in Peru or Bolivia it was litterally grow this crop or not have enough money to live on.

At the time the crop was illegal, and well guess who ran the collection of the illegal crop?  The Italian Mafia which then sold it to their American Cousins.  This is well documented for anyone who wants to check it out.  They either called it the French Connection (as they used Marseilles as a hub, or the Pizza connection because the Italian-American Mafia used pizzerias as their cover businesses for this).

Well to deal with the illicit trade Turkey could go out and harass farmers and arrest people and basically spend tons of cash for no real effect...or it could try something completely radical.  It could legalize growing the poppies, and then offer the production to pharmaceutical companies. 

When Turkey legalized growing the poppies Bayer took over as the main purchaser, offering as much as the mafia did (and often more to compete with them), all completely legal and taxed, and they produced many life saving drugs with it.


Simply put prohibition has never worked, and will never work. The fact that PBR deliberately refuses to see the absolute and utter failure of this policy either indicates insanity or stupidity or both.

==

As for the differences between Latin Americans and Anglo Americans it is immaterial.  I don't want ANY foreigners in the US.  I don't care where they come from.

Since being subtle hasn't worked let me try absolute bluntness.

[Image: il_570xN.1007169627_800t.jpg]

Totally agree with you about legalization of drugs and a fantastic example.
The same can be said about sex work as well. Don't you think it's time for us to legalize or at least decriminalize that as well for all the same reason? So far their had been very little movement on this issue although it's prohibition hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago
You mean prostitution? That has been made legal in my country for a few years now.
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