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U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey offers death-penalty bill for cop killers
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U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey offers death-penalty bill for cop killers

https://www.timesonline.com/news/2019051...op-killers
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This would be unconstitutional under the SCOTUS' 1977 Woodson v. North Carolina decision.
"It was better with them that were slain by the sword, than with them that died with hunger, for these pined away being consumed for want of the fruits of the earth" - Lamentations 4:9
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The cop-killer is becoming far rarer due to cops wearing bullet-proof vests. The crook shoots ineffectively at the cop's lungs or heart, and the cop gets the second shot at the crook's chest or lungs and then gets off perhaps several more shots (cops do overkill on those who attack them), and the crook dies. The crook tries to aim for the cop's head, and the cop shoots for the crook's lungs or chest...and the crook dies.

People who try to kill cops end up shot to death, and would-be cop-killers never face capital punishment because they are already dead before they can be arrested and tried. In effect, one of the largest classes of people who used to get executed, cop-killers, are fading as part of Death-Row inmates.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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The future looks extremely grim.

There are no more free countries.

No country has religious freedom, free speech, gun rights, or protection from warrantless searches, forfeiture, indefinite detention, torture, or extrajudicial assassination.

You might have slightly more freedom in Ireland or Switzerland, but soon the whole world will look like North Korea.

People in Venezuela, China, Vietnam, and Cuba seem to deal with tyranny by just ignoring it and living their lives, but making plans are difficult because everything is illegal and you can be arrested at anytime.

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
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Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).
"It was better with them that were slain by the sword, than with them that died with hunger, for these pined away being consumed for want of the fruits of the earth" - Lamentations 4:9
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(11-09-2019, 05:21 PM)Anthony Wrote: Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).

Being equally impoverished is not a good thing, in and of itself.  Gini is a nice way to compare similar nations, but EG is not similar to anything other than Zimbabwe or the like.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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I hope Sen. Toomey offers to vote to convict The Donald. Then he would be making himself useful!
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(11-09-2019, 06:27 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 05:21 PM)Anthony Wrote: Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).

Being equally impoverished is not a good thing, in and of itself.  Gini is a nice way to compare similar nations, but EG is not similar to anything other than Zimbabwe or the like.


But the interesting thing is that most Muslim Third World countries have very low Gini indices (Afghanistan has one of the lowest in the world), while most Christian Third World countries have among the highest, in both Latin America and central and southern Africa.

This is proof of a Second Cold War, with the Islamic bloc picking up the banner dropped by the Communist bloc when the First Cold War ended 30 years ago.
"It was better with them that were slain by the sword, than with them that died with hunger, for these pined away being consumed for want of the fruits of the earth" - Lamentations 4:9
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(11-09-2019, 05:21 PM)Anthony Wrote: Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).

Where's the connection? Gini measures inequality (and not very well).
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(11-11-2019, 05:52 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 05:21 PM)Anthony Wrote: Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).

Where's the connection? Gini measures inequality (and not very well).


"Zakat," translated as "charity" or "almsgiving," is one of the six pillars of Islam - the other five being "Shahada" (faith), "Salat" (prayer), "Sawm" (fasting, particularly the dawn-to-dusk fast during Ramadan), "Hajj" (the pilgrimage to Mecca, which is mandatory for all Muslims physically and financially able to do so), and, of course, "Jihad" (violent holy war against "infidels").

And the whole point of sharia law is to deputize government to build these pillars and to keep them standing - linking the Islamic extremism of the Second Cold War to the Communism of the First Cold War.
"It was better with them that were slain by the sword, than with them that died with hunger, for these pined away being consumed for want of the fruits of the earth" - Lamentations 4:9
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(11-11-2019, 10:49 AM)Anthony Wrote:
(11-11-2019, 05:52 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 05:21 PM)Anthony Wrote: Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).

Where's the connection? Gini measures inequality (and not very well).


"Zakat," translated as "charity" or "almsgiving," is one of the six pillars of Islam - the other five being "Shahada" (faith), "Salat" (prayer), "Sawm" (fasting, particularly the dawn-to-dusk fast during Ramadan), "Hajj" (the pilgrimage to Mecca, which is mandatory for all Muslims physically and financially able to do so), and, of course, "Jihad" (violent holy war against "infidels").

And the whole point of sharia law is to deputize government to build these pillars and to keep them standing - linking the Islamic extremism of the Second Cold War to the Communism of the First Cold War.

That doesn't have to do anything with what I said. But since we're at it, how much zakat do they have to pay? WP says "2.5% of their savings and wealth". Once per year. Is that correct?
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(11-11-2019, 05:52 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(11-09-2019, 05:21 PM)Anthony Wrote: Rather interesting that Equatorial Guinea ranks 174th out of 180 countries in "freedom" despite having the highest Gini index in the world (65.0).

Where's the connection? Gini measures inequality (and not very well).

It is good for 

(1) comparisons of countries with similar levels of economic development (let us say France, Japan, and the United States -- or China and Mexico) 

(2) contrasts of regions within a country (New England and "Dixie", northeastern and southeastern Brazil)

(3) internal contrasts between ethnic groups within a country (Mexican-Americans versus Chinese-Americans), and 

(4) contrasts over time (USA 1929, USA 1939). 

Any statistical metric must be applied with due care for relevance.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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No one will care that the US is not a free country until more Americans personally become victims of the police state.

Everyone will shrug if an American gets killed by the CIA in Yemen, but Americans might care about the police state when they get tortured for jaywalking.
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I personally think the death penalty carries too great of a risk of wrongful execution in any case. Imposing it on accused cop killers is just a drop in an overflowing bucket.
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(12-08-2019, 08:32 PM)ResidentArtist Wrote: I personally think the death penalty carries too great of a risk of wrongful execution in any case. Imposing it on accused cop killers is just a drop in an overflowing bucket.
I assume that you think they would not receive a fair and impartial trail in today's America before they're convicted and sentenced to death for doing it these days. Is it really a great risk these days? I mean, we've come along since the 80's with DNA testing and other scientific advancements used by modern day law enforcement officials.
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Cameron Todd Willingham, convicted and sentenced to death, subsequently executed, in part because a quack psychiatrist had posters by the groups Led Zeppelin and Iron Maiden as evidence of sociopathy and because of self-serving accusations (later proved wrong) by a jailhouse snitch.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Living in a police state can make you sympathetic. Why shouldn't black people be able to buy guns, billionaires be allowed to cheat on their taxes, and Christians be able to feed the homeless?

If the government is arresting others, why wouldn't the government jail you?

The government doesn't obey the law, why should Americans?
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