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Big bust of MS-13 in Long Island
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In view of a spammer clogging up this site with new threads, I am going to try to show how to make a relevant thread. Organized crime isn't what most people think of as business, but it does seem to generate money and grab wealth -- if by hurting its customers or people dependent upon those customers.  That spammer managed to create even more threads than I did -- but mine, you can trust are not spam. So much for the preliminaries. You know what I think of MS-13... I am a liberal on many things, but definitely not crime, and especially on organized crime. 

   MS-13 arrests deal blow to gang leadership on Long Island

The violent MS-13 street gang, announcing charges against nearly 100 of the group’s members and associates on Long Island.


Suffolk County District Attorney Timothy Sini revealed a sweeping indictment that he said “decimated” the gang’s leadership and drug suppliers on Long Island. He described the case as the largest of its kind against MS-13 in New York, where the gang has been blamed for dozens of killings since 2016.


The two-year investigation by state and federal authorities thwarted more than a half-dozen murder plots, Sini said, and also provided authorities insights into the gang’s structure and recruiting patterns. The investigation was bolstered by an expansive wire tap in which the authorities monitored calls from more than 200 phone numbers.

Gang members on Long Island conspired with colleagues from as far away as Europe and Oklahoma, collecting cash from drug sales and sending that money to the organization’s leaders in El Salvador, according to the 77-count indictment handed up Monday.

The gang feuded against rivals and would even kill its own members who showed signs of disloyalty or failed to perform “required tasks” such as paying dues or trafficking drugs and weapons, the indictment says.


“MS-13 is a ruthless, savage gang,” Sini said at a news conference, pointing to a machete recovered by law enforcement, the gang’s signature weapon. “They will attempt to recalibrate and send individuals to take up leadership roles in Suffolk County. That’s why we have to stay vigilant.”


Authorities said they seized more than 10 kilograms of cocaine, hundreds of fentanyl pills, drug ledgers, long guns and other firearms, and more than $200,000 cash. Those taken into custody included the leaders of nine so-called “cliques” — factions of MS-13.



“What you’re hearing from us today is that we’re more committed than every to eradicate this gang,” Sini said. ”Is the battle over? Absolutely not.”



MS-13, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, is considered one of the top transnational organized crime threats in the United States. Violence committed by the gang, including the 2016 slayings of two teenage girls, helped spark an aggressive effort by the FBI and the U.S. Justice Department to dismantle the gang,


https://apnews.com/e0782db530284c057a8c06a511aaf56f
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No one is tougher on crime than I am - but "organized crime" is a dog whistle for "ethnic crime."
"It was better with them that were slain by the sword, than with them that died with hunger, for these pined away being consumed for want of the fruits of the earth" - Lamentations 4:9
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(01-19-2020, 05:18 PM)Anthony Wrote: No one is tougher on crime than I am - but "organized crime" is a dog whistle for "ethnic crime."

I have known of crime syndicates in lily-white, non-ethnic parts of Appalachia and the Ozarks.
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(01-19-2020, 05:18 PM)Anthony Wrote: No one is tougher on crime than I am - but "organized crime" is a dog whistle for "ethnic crime."

If you think so, it's likely that even pbrower is tougher on crime than you are.
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(01-19-2020, 10:18 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(01-19-2020, 05:18 PM)Anthony Wrote: No one is tougher on crime than I am - but "organized crime" is a dog whistle for "ethnic crime."

If you think so, it's likely that even pbrower is tougher on crime than you are.

1. Most Italian-Americans hate the Mafia, a disgrace to the vast majority of Italian-Americans who do honest work (including the ownership of small businesses). Italian-Americans are the people that the Sicilian and Neapolitan Mafias are most likely to bleed.   

2. More Italian-Americans fit benign stereotypes out of Moonstruck (any cinematic treatment largely of one ethnic group will have stereotypes) than out of Goodfellas. Which group of Italian-Americans could seduce me? So I might listen to more opera...  Italian-American adults know the signals of the Mafia, including its sartorial style, as shown when Henry Hill's grandmother says of the dolled-up delinquent: "You look like a mobster". A hint: if a man, do not wear a suit with pinstripes unless you look Nordic.

3. It is clear that the reputation of MS-13 offends every segment of every Hispanic 'national' group. You saw the article... criminal subcultures are for losers. In the rural area in which I live, the Hispanics of Mexican and Central-American origin have good cause to do well in school. Of course a rural area has few distractions, winters are nasty so a kid might as well go to school for a lack of alternatives, and the roles for ill-educated people are mostly farm labor. The local cops know about MS-13 and would be swift to react to it.

MS-13 largely brutalizes Hispanic populations, does robberies, deals drugs, and pimps girls. Who would want them around? So
they hurt their own... what sort of excuse is that?
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